Mattathias Schwartz
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legal affairs correspondent // The New York Times
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Yes, we've written quite a bit about all of those.
The case that we're talking about — the one that's the focus of the story you initiated a discussion here about — is Trump v Illinois
The case that we're talking about — the one that's the focus of the story you initiated a discussion here about — is Trump v Illinois
November 26, 2025 at 11:46 PM
Yes, we've written quite a bit about all of those.
The case that we're talking about — the one that's the focus of the story you initiated a discussion here about — is Trump v Illinois
The case that we're talking about — the one that's the focus of the story you initiated a discussion here about — is Trump v Illinois
yeah, Perry found the same thing, and that's in our piece -- as I'm sure you noticed when you read it
pointing out a lack of credibility is different from assigning intent
pointing out a lack of credibility is different from assigning intent
November 26, 2025 at 10:19 PM
yeah, Perry found the same thing, and that's in our piece -- as I'm sure you noticed when you read it
pointing out a lack of credibility is different from assigning intent
pointing out a lack of credibility is different from assigning intent
I understand why you think painting with a broader brush here is warranted. But the parts of Ellis's opinion where she charges officials with deliberate falsehoods are talking about a different case, a different declarant, and a different set of facts. We may have to agree to disagree.
November 26, 2025 at 10:13 PM
I understand why you think painting with a broader brush here is warranted. But the parts of Ellis's opinion where she charges officials with deliberate falsehoods are talking about a different case, a different declarant, and a different set of facts. We may have to agree to disagree.
I did find this (from Judge Ellis, regarding Bovino) but that case is distinct from Trump v. Illinois, and the Supreme Court filing that our story reports on does not draw on statements made by Bovino to the district court. See www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/25...
November 26, 2025 at 4:13 PM
I did find this (from Judge Ellis, regarding Bovino) but that case is distinct from Trump v. Illinois, and the Supreme Court filing that our story reports on does not draw on statements made by Bovino to the district court. See www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/25...
please post a screencap from the ruling where a judge assigns intent
November 26, 2025 at 3:17 PM
please post a screencap from the ruling where a judge assigns intent
also, I'm not sure about this ...
"a Federal judge has already found Trump officials flat out lied about events in Chicago"
... they *have* pointed out inaccuracies, credibility issues, reasons for skepticism. But I'm not seeing "flat out lied" from Ellis or Perry. Does this refer to another one?
"a Federal judge has already found Trump officials flat out lied about events in Chicago"
... they *have* pointed out inaccuracies, credibility issues, reasons for skepticism. But I'm not seeing "flat out lied" from Ellis or Perry. Does this refer to another one?
November 26, 2025 at 3:09 PM
also, I'm not sure about this ...
"a Federal judge has already found Trump officials flat out lied about events in Chicago"
... they *have* pointed out inaccuracies, credibility issues, reasons for skepticism. But I'm not seeing "flat out lied" from Ellis or Perry. Does this refer to another one?
"a Federal judge has already found Trump officials flat out lied about events in Chicago"
... they *have* pointed out inaccuracies, credibility issues, reasons for skepticism. But I'm not seeing "flat out lied" from Ellis or Perry. Does this refer to another one?
