Summing up, Ms Kelly concudes, if his honour accepts the NTEU's construction, then these teachers have not been paid for these consultations, and Monash Uni has therefore breached the EBA and the Act

Moreover, Ms Kelly notes, there a range of practices about paying tutors at the university. Some Schools at Monash *do* pay students for consultation, so it's clear there's no common custom and practice here.

So, Kelly argues, contemporaneous is *not* a whole extra hour of scheduled consult time, which is not associated with the particular tutorial, and could be about the entire unit, or indeed student welfare etc

Ms Kelly shows Prof Mills a document from the Law Faculty with a table for number of consultation hours. Does she accept that in Law, tutors are separately remunerated for consultation? She says the document doesn’t specify what type of consultation applies, so she can’t tell

Bourke has clearly never met Ken McAlpine before!

... but not surprised? Why use someone else's tool when you could build your own and ignore that other pile of work over there?!

Test was a pretty low bar - "click checkbox or we assume you are robot" - but proof and pudding both need a bit more time 😜