Rhonda Stone
@rstonereading.bsky.social
—37 years supporting educators and parents with k-12 learning (author/co-author, 2 books)
—25 years working with a national reading expert
—8 years tutoring with the expert’s methods
—1/1/2025: Co-founder, Read Right Reading Improvement Network
—25 years working with a national reading expert
—8 years tutoring with the expert’s methods
—1/1/2025: Co-founder, Read Right Reading Improvement Network
The one I created for you is 7 min long and demonstrates cycling and judging excellence with a boy named Garrett. The book is Kitty and Dragon.
December 11, 2024 at 12:31 AM
The one I created for you is 7 min long and demonstrates cycling and judging excellence with a boy named Garrett. The book is Kitty and Dragon.
That wasn’t the point—the point is it could be read. The question is how—if reading only occurs through decoding or sight word recognition.
December 10, 2024 at 2:23 AM
That wasn’t the point—the point is it could be read. The question is how—if reading only occurs through decoding or sight word recognition.
Snake? It’s the one with Che chalkboard opening.
December 10, 2024 at 2:22 AM
Snake? It’s the one with Che chalkboard opening.
Where did you get that? I really want to know. I read an explanation (opinion) like that which an expert wrote, but that doesn’t mean it’s true. People who invest their reputations in a theory try to explain away negative results. I always read the studies themselves. Did you read the study?
December 7, 2024 at 6:45 PM
Where did you get that? I really want to know. I read an explanation (opinion) like that which an expert wrote, but that doesn’t mean it’s true. People who invest their reputations in a theory try to explain away negative results. I always read the studies themselves. Did you read the study?
Re: music. If an individual would cycle (see video) while maintaining a standard of excellence, they could figure out how to sing the song correctly after many attempts. With reading, cycling compels the brain to combine many forms of knowledge with minimal phonics to anticipate meaning—not decode.
December 7, 2024 at 6:39 PM
Re: music. If an individual would cycle (see video) while maintaining a standard of excellence, they could figure out how to sing the song correctly after many attempts. With reading, cycling compels the brain to combine many forms of knowledge with minimal phonics to anticipate meaning—not decode.
Good. Thank you. Did you see the video I made for you?
December 7, 2024 at 6:27 PM
Good. Thank you. Did you see the video I made for you?
The brain doesn’t have to decode words to construct meaning. Cna oyu rade tsih sntencee? It’s readable once you figure out what it’s about. Meaning isn’t stored through spelling. It’s conceptual. I’m saying there is another path to higher level reading—strategic phonics while constructing meaning.
December 7, 2024 at 6:25 PM
The brain doesn’t have to decode words to construct meaning. Cna oyu rade tsih sntencee? It’s readable once you figure out what it’s about. Meaning isn’t stored through spelling. It’s conceptual. I’m saying there is another path to higher level reading—strategic phonics while constructing meaning.
2/2 In terms of skill improvement, it was only observed in one of 3 years, and that was only at one grade (Grade 1). No statistical difference is not neutral. The “promise” made is that SoR would improve outcomes. A null effect is failure to deliver.
December 7, 2024 at 4:48 AM
2/2 In terms of skill improvement, it was only observed in one of 3 years, and that was only at one grade (Grade 1). No statistical difference is not neutral. The “promise” made is that SoR would improve outcomes. A null effect is failure to deliver.
1/2. Hi MizJan. I missed this comment. You’ve misinterpreted the RF summary—but it’s written to SEEM positive. Look again: The first set of findings only addresses Grade 1. The “positive findings” reported are all relative to teacher training, time on task, and materials. See 2/2
December 7, 2024 at 4:45 AM
1/2. Hi MizJan. I missed this comment. You’ve misinterpreted the RF summary—but it’s written to SEEM positive. Look again: The first set of findings only addresses Grade 1. The “positive findings” reported are all relative to teacher training, time on task, and materials. See 2/2
I don’t want to be an annoyance, but the foundation for SoR IS PA, phonics, and decoding. We’re easily remediating reading problems AND teaching new readers to read excellently w/ methods we’re told are not SoR. So, if we’re told that, why are our methods working for MOST students?
December 5, 2024 at 11:43 PM
I don’t want to be an annoyance, but the foundation for SoR IS PA, phonics, and decoding. We’re easily remediating reading problems AND teaching new readers to read excellently w/ methods we’re told are not SoR. So, if we’re told that, why are our methods working for MOST students?
I welcome the disagreement. I highly recommend reading NRP Panelist Joanne Yatvin’s National Reading Panel Minority View. What she says can’t be denied. She was an insider to the studies under review. Yes, SoR is a collection of studies. But hand-picked, to support word-level reading.
December 5, 2024 at 11:36 PM
I welcome the disagreement. I highly recommend reading NRP Panelist Joanne Yatvin’s National Reading Panel Minority View. What she says can’t be denied. She was an insider to the studies under review. Yes, SoR is a collection of studies. But hand-picked, to support word-level reading.
OG kids have significant reading problems — some are diagnosed w/ dyslexia
December 5, 2024 at 11:29 PM
OG kids have significant reading problems — some are diagnosed w/ dyslexia
That’s great! The majority of or students make remarkable progress. The point I’ve tried to make is fairly simple: We reject SoR and do specific things that aren’t supposed to work…but they work. Do, what does that say about SoR?
December 5, 2024 at 11:28 PM
That’s great! The majority of or students make remarkable progress. The point I’ve tried to make is fairly simple: We reject SoR and do specific things that aren’t supposed to work…but they work. Do, what does that say about SoR?
Correct. We work w/ a lot of students who did OG first and it didn’t work.
December 5, 2024 at 11:25 PM
Correct. We work w/ a lot of students who did OG first and it didn’t work.
OG has never “fixed” reading problems. It makes decoding words more accessible, then reading remains slow and laborious. They attribute the struggle to dyslexia—but the struggle was caused by how the child learned to read in the first place.
December 4, 2024 at 9:10 PM
OG has never “fixed” reading problems. It makes decoding words more accessible, then reading remains slow and laborious. They attribute the struggle to dyslexia—but the struggle was caused by how the child learned to read in the first place.
Did you know that OG is, in a way, responsible for the findings of the National Reading Panel (the foundation for SoR)? The organization that sought to prove that “phonemic awareness” was/is the missing component in reading development was Haskins Labs. Shaywitz was working with/for them in the 90s.
December 4, 2024 at 9:07 PM
Did you know that OG is, in a way, responsible for the findings of the National Reading Panel (the foundation for SoR)? The organization that sought to prove that “phonemic awareness” was/is the missing component in reading development was Haskins Labs. Shaywitz was working with/for them in the 90s.
Do your students totally eliminate the reading problem?
December 4, 2024 at 9:04 PM
Do your students totally eliminate the reading problem?
Letters that make primarily one sound. Students acquire more phonics knowledge as they work with stories and text. Many do so on their own, as they figure out how to make excellent reading work. Some kids don’t, and need explicit instruction—but only when/as needed.
December 4, 2024 at 8:22 PM
Letters that make primarily one sound. Students acquire more phonics knowledge as they work with stories and text. Many do so on their own, as they figure out how to make excellent reading work. Some kids don’t, and need explicit instruction—but only when/as needed.
Of course. SoR has evolved to push intensive, explicit instruction in 45 speech phonemes. We only require immediate recall of the 15 stable consonants—b,d,f,h,j,k,l,m,n,p,r,s,t,v and w. Why? Over emphasis on phonics CAUSES most reading problems.
December 4, 2024 at 8:16 PM
Of course. SoR has evolved to push intensive, explicit instruction in 45 speech phonemes. We only require immediate recall of the 15 stable consonants—b,d,f,h,j,k,l,m,n,p,r,s,t,v and w. Why? Over emphasis on phonics CAUSES most reading problems.
Reposted by Rhonda Stone
This one shows a little more of the advanced tutoring process. We use two components: Cyling & Judging Excellence and Coached Reading. Only the end of Cycling & Judging Excellence appears in the first part of the video. The rest is Coaching. Again: No decoding--ever. It causes reading problems.
December 3, 2024 at 10:14 PM
This one shows a little more of the advanced tutoring process. We use two components: Cyling & Judging Excellence and Coached Reading. Only the end of Cycling & Judging Excellence appears in the first part of the video. The rest is Coaching. Again: No decoding--ever. It causes reading problems.
Stage 4 Early Readers: Here, they begin to read authentically, on their own & continue working to integrate stable phonics info correctly WITH knowledge of language & the world. Those 3 essentials INTEGRATED efficiently produce meaning. Comprehension is guaranteed b/c it is the only objective.
December 3, 2024 at 9:33 PM
Stage 4 Early Readers: Here, they begin to read authentically, on their own & continue working to integrate stable phonics info correctly WITH knowledge of language & the world. Those 3 essentials INTEGRATED efficiently produce meaning. Comprehension is guaranteed b/c it is the only objective.