Oh absolutely, it's a terrible position. But right now the options basically amount to continue digging the hole but slower (LPC), not understanding holes and thinking you can dig upwards (NDP), or dig twice as fast while blaming everyone else for the hole (CPC).

I and many others are in the same boat; it's not exclusive to 25 & unders. And that's basically where the misinformation is working - so many have been conditioned to think that the CPC somehow has a magical solution to that problem, when in reality most of their policies would do the opposite.

They're really aren't. By any stretch or measure. But this is exactly why we say the disinformation is working.

To them it is. Because to them property is more important than people.

The term liveskeeting could do with some workshopping I feel.