Justin Schieber of Real Atheology
realatheology.bsky.social
Justin Schieber of Real Atheology
@realatheology.bsky.social
Philosophy of Religion.
It means if we learn horrendous evils we experience actually constitute intimacy with Christ’s suffering, not only should we not wish those moments away, we shouldn’t intervene on others having those same sorts of experiences.
June 16, 2025 at 5:34 PM
Yep. Damn.
June 15, 2025 at 12:23 PM
A concept of goodness worth nothing near our use of it requires more.
April 6, 2025 at 4:35 PM
One might rationally wonder, even from the vantage point of a heavenly afterlife, if the horrors experienced were in any sense ‘worth it’ when the value of one’s life, one’s intimacy with (and overall relationship with) God had no need for them.
February 8, 2025 at 2:04 AM
It’s far from clear that one’s participation specifically in horrendous evils offers a degree of intimacy greater than that of the activities associated with, say, deep friendship between persons.
February 8, 2025 at 2:04 AM
That by itself would not rule out one’s rationally regretting the inclusion of those horrors in their life.
After all, going fishing with or sharing a meal with friends could also provide points of deeply meaningful identification with experiences Jesus is reported to have had.
February 8, 2025 at 2:04 AM
Ya got a sneak peek at my current script. ;)
January 29, 2025 at 4:03 PM
It also runs too close to justifying one’s own planned participation (as perpetrator, specifically) in horrors in an effort to make one’s life ‘worth it’.
January 29, 2025 at 4:02 PM
It’s also odd that she sees so much value in identifying with the tragic part of Jesus’ life. Could not going fishing or breaking bread with friends be a far more valuable way of identifying with Christ?
January 29, 2025 at 3:54 PM
Right, part of the problem is that her solution requires all to have a rational and right judgment that the horrors were ‘worth it’ in the end. Hard to see how that’s rational if horrors aren’t required for en ever deepening relationship w God.
January 29, 2025 at 3:51 PM
She believes that God is perfectly good but that this goodness isn’t moral goodness. Nevertheless she thinks God must be good to persons. I clarify in the video which goes live in 5mins. Lolz
January 25, 2025 at 5:56 PM
But for others who hold that God is a moral agent, this is potentially a valid inference. Great question.
January 25, 2025 at 5:24 PM
In her application, such a claim wouldn’t follow. She holds that God is not a member of our moral community. So while God has no obligations to us, we do.
January 25, 2025 at 5:23 PM
Theodicy in a vale of tears was the title I believe.
January 5, 2025 at 9:58 PM