this is a false argument because rats and other animals can’t have relationships like that. homosexuality as a concept lives in animals but we are the only ones who can think deeper about it

science changes, we used to think the earth centered the galaxy. then we found out we were just wrong and took pictures to prove it

who cares that science is ever changing, thats just more proof that there is no objectivity in morality. new evidence comes out for stuff all the time that can make it either good or bad over time. as we as humans learn more, and encourage learning, instead of being stuck in a way for years

respectfully, that doesn’t make sense. a being that creates a race just to confuse and test them is a manipulative being. we as humans desire an objective truth, i follow the objective truths we do get, science, which affirms the existence of gay and trans people, because no evidence exists not to

well we are actually arguing about gay people and how they are “objectively disgusting” to you. to which your answer (long-windedly) was gods will, so i ask, if gay people are objectively wrong why even create the idea of being gay in the first place, why put it through nature? animals can be too yk

well if god wanted to actually give us objective laws we can abide by that would be great but if god is just testing humans by pissing them off and confusing them i don’t think that’s a god i want to devote my love to. if things are so bad why not step in and set us right

zero chance of human influence doesn’t rule out nature, look up sun dogs, how the sun and moon appear the same distance from earth because we are in the perfect spot, tidal flow and moon cycles, life has some crazy shit out here and its all due to things being in the right place at the right time

how come we can’t prove objectivity in the fact all people of a crime suffer the same consequences. there is so much shit that gets let off due to human influence, and if things were objectively wrong with puppet strings on it all that wouldn’t go through

the only evidence proving gods existence would be a sober, worldwide appearance which shouldn’t be hard for a deity with infinite power. unfortunately it is apparently hard and that doesn’t add up, so a skeptic i stay

unless actually he can use his spotting of grey to tell me what is blue, because it’s grey, that would be cool but unfortunately a lot of colorblind people are colorblind to a spectrum meaning multiple colors show as grey

well that person is apparently blue-color blind meaning they have the inablity to see the color blue, so in this specific example i would say his opinion on what is blue or not is irrelevant

though i should say killing isn’t objectively bad, like i said self defense can be argued, and accidents happen.

yeah lmao exactly

if gods wisdom is flawless why would there be evil influence? unless perhaps gods view is subjective within itself as you are portraying them a deity that can express emotion right? you won’t trust the word of people your size living right here right now but you’ll blindly defend what’s invisible.

i will say “hey man, no offense but you’re color blind”. and if you wanna get into semantics technically the sky is just a reflection but that’s besides the point

and third, you are incorporating your feelings in using the word “disgusting” for anything to be “disgusting” is a feeling and opinion. and facts don’t care about your feelings 😎

firstly, self defense can be negotiated. secondly, if people disagree you can’t seriously declare it an objective view

the sky is objectively blue, that’s the proper use of the word.

i never said it was objectively disgusting some people disagree, i think it’s disgusting, science knows it’s harmful, that’s all i need.