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he/they, 25 // denver, usa // 21+
tbh that's what i was getting to, it's not even that they're "okay with abandoning" anyone, it's that the platform literally makes no attempt to connect with people impacted by these politics. they are just meant to vote for people who wait two years and push it all back onto them all over again
November 19, 2025 at 3:54 AM
like idk. these groups campaign year round and donate fractions of their salary to namesake tax claims, i don't even personally care about "purity", but i also don't care about performance
November 18, 2025 at 9:42 PM
like that's the biggest problem. for some reason the dem party seems to believe the solution is in appealing to "centrists" who are non-voters. and the voters being lost by the complete disregard for their interests just can't be replaced that fast
November 18, 2025 at 8:47 PM
and just to bring it back, biden only won because of the "anyone but trump" push in the end. he was just so concerned with a polished retirement that kamala didn't have the same chance, even though it already wasn't happening anyway
November 18, 2025 at 8:44 PM
he didn't run as a leftist in the 90s either, i don't know why we're trying to learn from either candidate when biden just happened to be the one to succeed off the meaningless (D) tag grift
November 18, 2025 at 8:43 PM
like that's what i just can't connect with. he is no template for a party-funded campaign, because his run succeeded off grassroots support and directly connecting with voters. any criticism of his 'framing' is what people voted for, against heavy opposition
November 18, 2025 at 8:37 PM
as terrible as he might be, dems have failed for 15 years to create anything better. now we just have people trying to rewrite hillary's run like she wouldn't have broken that red button on the middle east's back
November 18, 2025 at 8:35 PM
the centrist position just has no teeth, and both the dem and republican party have guns. every 'centrist' that won has expressed desire to undercut and overthrow existing systems, not find a middle ground with them. if the party doesn't understand what voters want, they WILL lose
November 18, 2025 at 8:32 PM
dems come in to sweep votes from people who resent republicans, but they leave it to the voter base to figure out our own problems. and then when we fund a historic grassroots campaign that swept multiple elections, now we 'need to set the gun down'
November 18, 2025 at 8:29 PM
there was a local and national campaign of democrats and republicans working together to sabotage the image of a politician and repeatedly insult voters for voting for him.-
November 18, 2025 at 8:28 PM
what lessons are there to be applied other than "even the dem party will attempt to sabotage their own candidate if they don't represent investors values"? again, you just can't connect with a base that you treat as something to be afraid of
November 18, 2025 at 8:25 PM
like your examples of centrism, purity testing elected mamdani. not giving into the half hearted non-apologies of a man with a history of sexual assault worked
November 18, 2025 at 8:23 PM
dems want to benefit from peoples desire for change, but they're afraid the base will just as easily shift away from *them*, and any true pro-democracy politician would understand that is not something to be controlled
November 18, 2025 at 8:21 PM
but this isn't happening. i think a big reason the democrat party is not connecting with its potential voter base is because it doesn't want to. if people were so primitive and easily swayed, the million dollar propaganda campaigns against him would've worked
November 18, 2025 at 8:20 PM
and i mean that's been my problem for a while, these mouthpieces can literally say "dems believe ___" and even other dems will expect the party to answer for it. alabama doesn't need nationalized stores, they need housing development and rent control
November 18, 2025 at 7:49 PM
i mean i think it only goes back to his criticism of the "bluesky bubble" and how he himself isn't talking to dems, because nationalized grocery stores will not work in states that are net negative tax contributors, and i haven't seen anyone actually talk about national expansion
November 18, 2025 at 7:45 PM
like you said, "extreme change" is going to take different forms across each state, a new jersey dem directly tackling property taxes in new jersey is extreme, for a state with the highest property taxes
November 18, 2025 at 7:23 PM
sherrill won on a campaign of closing tax loopholes for billionaires and redistributing relief by expanding tax credits to parents, the working class and property owners. i had this same conversation about the virginia elect, they're maybe centrist for 2015, not now
November 18, 2025 at 7:20 PM
we're actually specifically in for our first female president to be a "moderate" catholic republican. vance and MTG are already lining up. so if you want to combat 30 year plans, we need something as extreme, not to pretend there's a "middle" between them
November 18, 2025 at 7:11 PM
i mean, the dem party still doesn't think he's a good candidate, they just lost to him. i'd hope people understand that tax-funded grocery stores won't work in net negative states, we're in for another maga potus because people are looking for any and every reason to divest and play safe
November 18, 2025 at 7:09 PM
they've already spent millions to sabotage him, and it didn't work. honestly come on bluesky and it's like watching people try to find the most acceptable moral stance while not actually committing to anything at all
November 18, 2025 at 6:21 PM
so what, we're hoping to convince mamdani to go back on all of his campaign promises so we can lose all swing states a second time, sabotage a grassroots campaign, and feed more "center" by electing a dem who supposed funding israel?
November 18, 2025 at 6:19 PM