Folk-punk, onomastics, etymology, historical linguistics, real ale, blackbird song, and fairness. Editor of the EPNS Survey of Kent and co-host of Carrington Triangle Folk Club. Not an adult, according to BlueSky.
... Rats Castle Farm in/near Cadbury (Somerset). For Rats Castle in Lechlade (PN Gloucs 1·43) Hugh Smith says "probably a jocular name of a derelict building". Different explanations may suit different cases. I think we can at least say that a recognisable type exists: bird or small animal + castle.
July 17, 2025 at 2:49 PM
... Rats Castle Farm in/near Cadbury (Somerset). For Rats Castle in Lechlade (PN Gloucs 1·43) Hugh Smith says "probably a jocular name of a derelict building". Different explanations may suit different cases. I think we can at least say that a recognisable type exists: bird or small animal + castle.
... Somerby (PN Leics 2·227), recorded in the mid-18th century - the earliest so far. Barrie Cox comments "castle presumably used in the sense 'a high safe place'". NB Crow not Crows, whatever that may or may not tell us. There are more rats too: Rats Castle Farm in Battle (Sussex) and ...
July 17, 2025 at 2:49 PM
... Somerby (PN Leics 2·227), recorded in the mid-18th century - the earliest so far. Barrie Cox comments "castle presumably used in the sense 'a high safe place'". NB Crow not Crows, whatever that may or may not tell us. There are more rats too: Rats Castle Farm in Battle (Sussex) and ...
... doubt a term of contempt". And there's a Sparrow Castle in Cockburnspath (Berwicks). The s-less sparrows are remarkably consistent! Owls are harder to spot. In Sussex there's Owls Castle in Ticehurst and Owlscastle Farm in Rusper. One other bird I've spotted is the crow in Crow Castle in ...
July 17, 2025 at 2:49 PM
... doubt a term of contempt". And there's a Sparrow Castle in Cockburnspath (Berwicks). The s-less sparrows are remarkably consistent! Owls are harder to spot. In Sussex there's Owls Castle in Ticehurst and Owlscastle Farm in Rusper. One other bird I've spotted is the crow in Crow Castle in ...
... Sparrow Castle to be of a type in which sparrow denotes smallness. His examples, from Teversal (Notts) and Cridling Stubbs (West Yorks), both have Sparrow (not Sparrows) just like the Kent names - a notable difference from the Owls, Rats, and Spiders. The editors of PN Notts (p.137) say "no ...
July 17, 2025 at 2:49 PM
... Sparrow Castle to be of a type in which sparrow denotes smallness. His examples, from Teversal (Notts) and Cridling Stubbs (West Yorks), both have Sparrow (not Sparrows) just like the Kent names - a notable difference from the Owls, Rats, and Spiders. The editors of PN Notts (p.137) say "no ...
... Rats Castle (8 instances) in Biddenden, Frittenden, Hackington, Langley, East Malling, Nettlestead, Tonbridge, and Wrotham; Spiders Castle (2 instances) in Eastchurch and Wye. These names look jocular and/or disparaging to me. In "A New Dictionary of English Field-Names", Paul Cavill takes ...
July 17, 2025 at 2:49 PM
... Rats Castle (8 instances) in Biddenden, Frittenden, Hackington, Langley, East Malling, Nettlestead, Tonbridge, and Wrotham; Spiders Castle (2 instances) in Eastchurch and Wye. These names look jocular and/or disparaging to me. In "A New Dictionary of English Field-Names", Paul Cavill takes ...
Please pardon the delay! Examples from Kent (which I have to hand as it's the county I'm editing) are all first recorded late, there's nothing before the 19th century: Owls Castle in Meopham; Sparrow Castle (3 instances) in Acol, Ash next Sandwich, and St John the Baptist alias Margate. Compare ...
July 17, 2025 at 2:49 PM
Please pardon the delay! Examples from Kent (which I have to hand as it's the county I'm editing) are all first recorded late, there's nothing before the 19th century: Owls Castle in Meopham; Sparrow Castle (3 instances) in Acol, Ash next Sandwich, and St John the Baptist alias Margate. Compare ...
... in stand-alone genitival names like those 14th/15th-century "Ruddokes" forms, which typically contain tenants' surnames, often relating to identifiable families. I'll dig out Owls + Sparrows Castles (NB not medieval names) as soon as I'm back from the Great North Folk Festival - must dash now!
July 11, 2025 at 10:03 AM
... in stand-alone genitival names like those 14th/15th-century "Ruddokes" forms, which typically contain tenants' surnames, often relating to identifiable families. I'll dig out Owls + Sparrows Castles (NB not medieval names) as soon as I'm back from the Great North Folk Festival - must dash now!
Yes, you could argue that e.g. Redstone in Bratton Clovelly (PN Devon 175–6), recorded as Roddekeston in 1330, contains the bird-name rather than a hypocoristic form of the OE personal name Rudda; genitive singular doesn't preclude animal names at all. But that's as qualifiers in compounds, not ...
July 11, 2025 at 10:00 AM
Yes, you could argue that e.g. Redstone in Bratton Clovelly (PN Devon 175–6), recorded as Roddekeston in 1330, contains the bird-name rather than a hypocoristic form of the OE personal name Rudda; genitive singular doesn't preclude animal names at all. But that's as qualifiers in compounds, not ...
"Rudokes" 1369 in Oulton (PN Norfolk 3:97), Ruddocks Gore ("Ruddokkes" 1479) in Anstey + Barkway (PN Herts 297), Redoak Wood ("Ruddokes" 1403) in Theydon Bois (PN Essex 83) - all plausibly contain the surname. Place-names like Sparrows Castle and Owls Castle look good parallels for the Gloucs name.
July 10, 2025 at 9:32 PM
"Rudokes" 1369 in Oulton (PN Norfolk 3:97), Ruddocks Gore ("Ruddokkes" 1479) in Anstey + Barkway (PN Herts 297), Redoak Wood ("Ruddokes" 1403) in Theydon Bois (PN Essex 83) - all plausibly contain the surname. Place-names like Sparrows Castle and Owls Castle look good parallels for the Gloucs name.
Smith's analysis in the EPNS volume is open to interpretation. Other "Ruddock" place-names do seem to contain the surname (examples to follow), but this one's different, it's the full "Robin R" form. Ruddock has never been a Gloucs surname. Reddock forms with a front vowel are Scottish and locative.
July 10, 2025 at 9:28 PM
Smith's analysis in the EPNS volume is open to interpretation. Other "Ruddock" place-names do seem to contain the surname (examples to follow), but this one's different, it's the full "Robin R" form. Ruddock has never been a Gloucs surname. Reddock forms with a front vowel are Scottish and locative.
There's "Robin Reddocks Castle" recorded in 1628 in King's Stanley (PN Gloucs 2, p. 200), which nicely fits the pattern of bird-name + castle, but yep, I can't find any other robins. A most curious absence.
July 10, 2025 at 4:42 PM
There's "Robin Reddocks Castle" recorded in 1628 in King's Stanley (PN Gloucs 2, p. 200), which nicely fits the pattern of bird-name + castle, but yep, I can't find any other robins. A most curious absence.