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All intersex people have genotypic condition, this is a fact.

The xx or xy of an intersex person is not like a typical xx or xy, we can know if someone is intersex by looking at the genotype. The form of the xy or xx intersex is different.
December 1, 2024 at 2:05 AM
Yes, so they can be both male and female at the same time.

Its not a sex category on its own.
December 1, 2024 at 2:02 AM
No, hermaphrodite is the ability to change between male, female, or have both at the same time. Its not a sex category on its own.

I never said that androgens determine genotype, I said that genotype influence phenotype. Intersex people have a mutation on their genotype, and modify phenotype too.
December 1, 2024 at 1:33 AM
You said there are at least 5 dioecious sexes, which is false because dioecy mean having distinct unisexual individuals, each producing either male or female gametes.

Also, androgens is not what determine phenotype, that is just false. Genotype play a big part in this and you cant change that.
November 30, 2024 at 10:12 PM
Here is my definition of sex : its the developmental pathway toward facilitating the production of small (male) or big gametes (female).

No third type of gamete exists in humans and intersex is not a third sex either.
November 30, 2024 at 6:55 AM
The phenotype is the observable expression of the genotype, in 99.9% of the cases.

Androgens only effect second sex characteristics, not sex itself.

It goes back to my argument that sex characteristics doesn't define sex itself.
November 30, 2024 at 6:43 AM
Interesting.

I did like 4 years of biology and while we learned how cells multiply, all the chemical interactions and how gametes (male + female) merge to produce a foetus, we learned nothing about trans identity or cells changing sex because of hormones.

Sex is written in the DNA for mammals.
November 30, 2024 at 6:32 AM
Do what exactly? Change second sex characteristics?

Its just esthetical and only to help with gender dysphoria, while plants and mollusk do it for reproduction.

You wont be getting any of the reproductive capability of the other sex by taking external hormones.
November 30, 2024 at 6:23 AM
I really wonder in which biology class did you learn about these 5 dioecious sexes? Where did you learn that?
November 30, 2024 at 4:33 AM
Yes, I know that.

Mammals don't have this ability too.

Or maybe we can at least agree that we, humans, don't have this ability by natural means.
November 30, 2024 at 4:30 AM
Oh, my bad.

Yes my terms were specific to plants and yours for both plants and some mollusks & fishes.

Guess I'm learning something today.

I still don't see how this apply to humans and transitions. These mollusk don't require gender affirming care as far as I know.
November 30, 2024 at 4:17 AM
Dioecy means that an animal is either male or female.

Andromonoecy and gynomonoecy are only observed in plants, not human.
November 30, 2024 at 3:45 AM
Intersex is an umbrella term for many sexual developmental anomalies, and the vast majority of trans people don't have that.

I do not advocate for harmful medical practices on children, this is why I want to protect kids from trans ideology.
November 30, 2024 at 3:29 AM
But you clearly said that there are 5 dioecious sexes which does make any sense at all since the word literally mean "Two household".

My point is, even if that's true and we found other type of sexes, mammals are gonochoric which mean there are two sexes for humans, male and female.
November 30, 2024 at 3:24 AM
Glad that we agree on that at least, but tell me, what is the basis of their "correct" sex?
November 30, 2024 at 3:00 AM
Dioecy is for plants, not human. All birds and mammal species are gonochoric, that is very different.

Human have only 2 sexes and a male taking female hormones will never be able to change its primary sex characteristics, so its just a biological male taking female hormones in the end.
November 30, 2024 at 2:54 AM
Again, prescribing to a kid that he or she is born the wrong sex is a terrible thing to do.

Kids should be told that they should "change sex" to be happy in their skin.
November 30, 2024 at 2:47 AM
If you go into the biology side of thing alone, there there are two sexes and human cannot change it.

Gender dysphoria is not biological, its psychological.
November 30, 2024 at 2:42 AM
Lets try this logic with a chair.

Is having four legs just a typical characteristic of a chair, or is it what a chair is? A dog have four legs too, but its not a chair.

The characteristics of a concept is not the concept itself.
November 29, 2024 at 10:15 PM
I do not think so.

Trans people wouldn't care about "passing" otherwise.

They do attach a very negative feeling about their innate genital, but also about their social image.
November 29, 2024 at 10:05 PM
I want them to be told the truth.

That no one is born in the wrong body, that boys are male and girls are female, and that's it.

And not attach any gender stereotypes to their sex.

I will them "You don't have to change your sex to be happy. Just stay who you are and respect your body."
November 29, 2024 at 9:58 PM
Yes, but sex characteristics is still not what define sex, they are still just the result of it.

If a start producing less male hormones for any reasons, I am still 100% male.
November 29, 2024 at 9:53 PM
Let kids be wrong? Why?

They are kid and they deserve to be kids, yes, not trans.

By removing all gatekeeping and even promoting transition for kids, you are pushing it on them.
November 29, 2024 at 9:50 PM
You are right.

Now ask yourself, what could make someone feel discomfort toward his/her sex?

1. Is it an inexplicable innate subjective gender identity thing?

2.Or is it a discomfort toward how that person sex characteristic is perceived in society because of sexism?

I believe its #2.
November 29, 2024 at 9:40 PM
No, the second part is a result of sex, not a defining factor.

I got my beard because of my puberty, which is the result of me being a male, not the other way around.
November 29, 2024 at 9:28 PM