i said it’s easier in socialism. obviously i want code changes done now, which i said earlier in this thread

the reforms to housing that we both want get easier in a socialist state anyway. it hasn’t happened here because there are wealthy people with monetary incentives to keep the archaic parts of the building codes, and they bribe politicians to make that happen. why are you defending this system?

also, the two options are not equal. in any comparable economy where wealth hasn’t been colonially extracted for decades, like in europe’s social democracies, or in especially china, there will always be fewer people on the streets.

cool, i’d rather that be the problem instead of a market economy where housing people is just a convenient byproduct of developers making money

right now? yimbyism is probably the best answer, along with increasing social housing budgets by vastly decreasing police/military expenditure. long term it’s a socialist revolution etc,

the suggestions are useful and the whole solution is socialism. does that help?

then what is the whole solution? this thread started with the idea that the free market was making housing affordable. that may be the case in the strict sense of cost, but the housing stock at the time was mostly of terrible quality. regulation isn’t the problem and free markets aren’t the solution

may the thugger posting flow forever

so it’s a fine stopgap solution. but the whole idea of generating/costing public money is limited by the capitalist framework of the american state. it’s only treating symptoms.

i think we agree? private developers are always gonna charge a higher price than is necessary, single stair or not. that’s why it should be social housing (with single stair and upzoning and all that).

and i’d agree that the vast majority of zoning law should be repealed. but deregulation isn’t the whole solution

and so developers obviously don’t care how much housing is available as long as they make money. social housing, on the other hand, if treated as a human right, would be built exactly to need.

you know who is motivated to keep double stair egress in the codes? the landlords and the land owners who profit from high prices. i want single stair as much as you do, but it’s a bandaid solution. private housing development is driven entirely by profit…

basically, it can somewhat alleviate housing demand by removing prohibitive parts of the code (double stair egress for example) that are kept there because landowners and landlords hate when housing/rent prices drop

given the benefit of doubt, i guess he sees it as a stopgap measure until socialism can happen fr. there are a lot of regulations crammed into building codes that favor single family (wealthy) housing and depress social housing

why do you think that’s happening?

you didn’t answer the question