One person who saw my sketches compared it to Deviantart trash, so basically my art is on the level of the trash on a site that's little better than an internet punchline.
January 29, 2026 at 8:57 PM
One person who saw my sketches compared it to Deviantart trash, so basically my art is on the level of the trash on a site that's little better than an internet punchline.
What's the point of expression if even wanting people to acknowledge it is bad? That I could never be able to convince people about how much I hate this and hate my drawing? That I have to keep it all inside and never let anyone see it? At least in part because I'm no better than substandard dreck?
January 29, 2026 at 8:57 PM
What's the point of expression if even wanting people to acknowledge it is bad? That I could never be able to convince people about how much I hate this and hate my drawing? That I have to keep it all inside and never let anyone see it? At least in part because I'm no better than substandard dreck?
It's more like they can't be bothered to give anything other than hollow affirmations or accused me of feeling entitled. Entitled to being a shitty artist, I guess.
I haven't even made AI art in a while. I know it's nothing I made myself. But it's usually better than anything I can do there.
I haven't even made AI art in a while. I know it's nothing I made myself. But it's usually better than anything I can do there.
January 29, 2026 at 2:59 PM
It's more like they can't be bothered to give anything other than hollow affirmations or accused me of feeling entitled. Entitled to being a shitty artist, I guess.
I haven't even made AI art in a while. I know it's nothing I made myself. But it's usually better than anything I can do there.
I haven't even made AI art in a while. I know it's nothing I made myself. But it's usually better than anything I can do there.
And the so-called artist just decided to give up and block me because it's easier for them to dismiss me than actually explain themselves.
January 29, 2026 at 2:49 PM
And the so-called artist just decided to give up and block me because it's easier for them to dismiss me than actually explain themselves.
You're doing something I can't, and expecting me to magically become DaVinci the moment you hand me a pencil and sketchbook. That's not how it works.
But you already said you don't care how I feel, right?
But you already said you don't care how I feel, right?
January 29, 2026 at 2:42 PM
You're doing something I can't, and expecting me to magically become DaVinci the moment you hand me a pencil and sketchbook. That's not how it works.
But you already said you don't care how I feel, right?
But you already said you don't care how I feel, right?
All you've got are insincere, hollow affirmations, to hide the sheer contempt you have of me, a lowly peon who would dare to question you. You're already so high above me in talent, why would you bother with saying anything actually sincere?
January 29, 2026 at 2:38 PM
All you've got are insincere, hollow affirmations, to hide the sheer contempt you have of me, a lowly peon who would dare to question you. You're already so high above me in talent, why would you bother with saying anything actually sincere?
Of course you won't feel bad about me. You're happy to trample over anyone who is lesser than you. You love it. Because you "put in the work."
Meanwhile I tried to put in the work, only to get nothing. But you don't care, do you. Because all you're thinking is "fuck you, got mine."
Meanwhile I tried to put in the work, only to get nothing. But you don't care, do you. Because all you're thinking is "fuck you, got mine."
January 29, 2026 at 2:31 PM
Of course you won't feel bad about me. You're happy to trample over anyone who is lesser than you. You love it. Because you "put in the work."
Meanwhile I tried to put in the work, only to get nothing. But you don't care, do you. Because all you're thinking is "fuck you, got mine."
Meanwhile I tried to put in the work, only to get nothing. But you don't care, do you. Because all you're thinking is "fuck you, got mine."
Good for you. Makes me feel even more worthless, because my art in 2007 is pretty much the same as it is now, before the life drawing classes and the books.
January 29, 2026 at 2:22 PM
Good for you. Makes me feel even more worthless, because my art in 2007 is pretty much the same as it is now, before the life drawing classes and the books.
That is miles better than anything I can ever manage. You're just making a joke out of me.
January 29, 2026 at 2:12 PM
That is miles better than anything I can ever manage. You're just making a joke out of me.
Oh yeah, just smash my face against the grindstone in the hopes that maybe, someday, it'll come out good?
Just pull myself up by my bootstraps instead of sitting around eating fudge rounds all day?
Just pull myself up by my bootstraps instead of sitting around eating fudge rounds all day?
January 29, 2026 at 2:05 PM
Oh yeah, just smash my face against the grindstone in the hopes that maybe, someday, it'll come out good?
Just pull myself up by my bootstraps instead of sitting around eating fudge rounds all day?
Just pull myself up by my bootstraps instead of sitting around eating fudge rounds all day?
I have been practicing. What do you think that picture is?
January 29, 2026 at 2:00 PM
I have been practicing. What do you think that picture is?
So having all these books, and actually going to classes isn't actually learning? Well then what is?
January 29, 2026 at 1:56 PM
So having all these books, and actually going to classes isn't actually learning? Well then what is?
I took life drawing classes years ago. I have multiple books on anatomy. And books on basic manga drawing. I've been practicing on and off for years.
THIS IS THE BEST I CAN DO.
THIS IS THE BEST I CAN DO.
January 29, 2026 at 1:52 PM
I took life drawing classes years ago. I have multiple books on anatomy. And books on basic manga drawing. I've been practicing on and off for years.
THIS IS THE BEST I CAN DO.
THIS IS THE BEST I CAN DO.
I've been trying for 20 years, this is the best I can do. And the fact that my reward is this worthless shit just means so much.
January 29, 2026 at 1:44 PM
I've been trying for 20 years, this is the best I can do. And the fact that my reward is this worthless shit just means so much.
Like, I'm seeing the response being "pick up a pencil" and that doesn't work if you can't make anything better, even with help. Even if I want to improve, I can't. What does that make me?
January 29, 2026 at 1:35 PM
Like, I'm seeing the response being "pick up a pencil" and that doesn't work if you can't make anything better, even with help. Even if I want to improve, I can't. What does that make me?
Thus hurts. Because I have a pencil and a sketch pad, several books and tutorials and my drawing still looks like shit.
January 29, 2026 at 12:29 PM
Thus hurts. Because I have a pencil and a sketch pad, several books and tutorials and my drawing still looks like shit.
Believe me, I tried. Most of the artists who draw anime characters with huge breasts end up throwing in scoldery into the mix as well.
January 23, 2026 at 9:47 PM
Believe me, I tried. Most of the artists who draw anime characters with huge breasts end up throwing in scoldery into the mix as well.
I always feel like that's a false promise. I have a feeling that at which point the AI bubble pops, people are going to turn on artists who they don't believe are good enough to post online.
People can say that human-made art has heart and soul, but that can't make anything actually good.
People can say that human-made art has heart and soul, but that can't make anything actually good.
January 23, 2026 at 9:45 PM
I always feel like that's a false promise. I have a feeling that at which point the AI bubble pops, people are going to turn on artists who they don't believe are good enough to post online.
People can say that human-made art has heart and soul, but that can't make anything actually good.
People can say that human-made art has heart and soul, but that can't make anything actually good.
The standards are still there. Not all poorly-made trash deserves to be called art, just because it was made by human hands badly.
And I that's all I can see in what I make for myself, not matter how many lies people try and tell me to make me feel better about myself.
AI art is better than me.
And I that's all I can see in what I make for myself, not matter how many lies people try and tell me to make me feel better about myself.
AI art is better than me.
January 23, 2026 at 9:13 PM
The standards are still there. Not all poorly-made trash deserves to be called art, just because it was made by human hands badly.
And I that's all I can see in what I make for myself, not matter how many lies people try and tell me to make me feel better about myself.
AI art is better than me.
And I that's all I can see in what I make for myself, not matter how many lies people try and tell me to make me feel better about myself.
AI art is better than me.
I was brought up by the sphere, I guess, of online criticism. I got into fanfic and started writing MSTings, I regularly hung around Godawful Fan Fiction, Fandom Wank and other mock sites.
The prevailing philosophy was the idea that if your work wasn't good enough, it shouldn't be seen at all.
The prevailing philosophy was the idea that if your work wasn't good enough, it shouldn't be seen at all.
January 23, 2026 at 9:13 PM
I was brought up by the sphere, I guess, of online criticism. I got into fanfic and started writing MSTings, I regularly hung around Godawful Fan Fiction, Fandom Wank and other mock sites.
The prevailing philosophy was the idea that if your work wasn't good enough, it shouldn't be seen at all.
The prevailing philosophy was the idea that if your work wasn't good enough, it shouldn't be seen at all.
Your art is definitely better than anything I could ever produce, and the only reason why I even post examples online is because of people trying to say that my art is somehow good, or at least better than anything AI can produce.
Just because I made art myself doesn't make it good.
Just because I made art myself doesn't make it good.
January 23, 2026 at 9:13 PM
Your art is definitely better than anything I could ever produce, and the only reason why I even post examples online is because of people trying to say that my art is somehow good, or at least better than anything AI can produce.
Just because I made art myself doesn't make it good.
Just because I made art myself doesn't make it good.
I have to wonder what this guy might think of Tracey Emin, or most modern artists deemed "not art" by certain kinds of people.
January 23, 2026 at 8:54 PM
I have to wonder what this guy might think of Tracey Emin, or most modern artists deemed "not art" by certain kinds of people.
Meanwhile, I've had nothing but countless faults trying to draw, after reading multiple books on the subject, and fully attending life drawing classes. No improvement whatsoever, before AI.
At what point does it not work? When will I be able to make Good Art?
At what point does it not work? When will I be able to make Good Art?
January 22, 2026 at 3:20 PM
Meanwhile, I've had nothing but countless faults trying to draw, after reading multiple books on the subject, and fully attending life drawing classes. No improvement whatsoever, before AI.
At what point does it not work? When will I be able to make Good Art?
At what point does it not work? When will I be able to make Good Art?
I do sometimes wonder if anyone on either side of this debate would call Felix Gonzalez-Torres' Perfect Lovers art, or Tracey Emin's bed, or Marcel Duchamp's Fountain. Or the banana taped to the wall?
Would it be just because they're physical objects that people would declare it counts?
Would it be just because they're physical objects that people would declare it counts?
January 22, 2026 at 3:02 PM
I do sometimes wonder if anyone on either side of this debate would call Felix Gonzalez-Torres' Perfect Lovers art, or Tracey Emin's bed, or Marcel Duchamp's Fountain. Or the banana taped to the wall?
Would it be just because they're physical objects that people would declare it counts?
Would it be just because they're physical objects that people would declare it counts?