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Nathan Lane
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Economist and professor at LSE. “Posting through it."
The photographer must have been *pumped*
October 30, 2025 at 8:01 PM
Reposted by Nathan Lane
So that's DeepSeek, Qwen, Moonshot (Kimi), Z.ai (GLM) and now MiniMax all turning out frontier open weight models in China

The ai-in-china tag on my blog is pretty busy this year! https://simonwillison.net/tags/ai-in-china/
Simon Willison on ai-in-china
77 posts tagged ‘ai-in-china’. See also my tags for Qwen and DeepSeek.
simonwillison.net
October 29, 2025 at 11:04 PM
Sounds like you are indicting them. As they DO in fact cite earlier work.
October 27, 2025 at 1:17 PM
That’s so frustrating and also not surprising
October 26, 2025 at 10:28 PM
It’s lazy and bad faith. Assuming they don’t cite and/or offer value added of their own.
October 26, 2025 at 10:25 PM
It’s such a bummer
October 26, 2025 at 10:23 PM