I agree. At the very least I hope the middle ground we can both agree to is that viv needs to work on her handlings of critique and how she interacts with people. If not, unfortunate and I hope that one day you can come to recognize where I come from and how my statements hold. Have a good one ✌️

At this point because you are deflecting constantly without actually having basis’ behind any of your points im literally begging you to take a moment sit back and think. Think about what you are supporting . It is OKAY to admit that an artist you like needs to work on themselves.

AND THEN to add on as I stated earlier continue to reference the specifics in the video as she spreads misinformation about the contents of it , claiming the artist talks about her studio when in REALITY the artist talks about the character designs in general 🤦

Just going to reply with this image because it speaks for itself or rather viv speaks for herself (posted with other reply too within this context)

Ahem. Read again. The key here is literally everything she stated, stop picking and choosing bits and pieces, we’re talking about her entire post as a whole thanks. + I already responded to this point earlier , we’re talking in circles now

It exclusively contradicts what you said..? You claimed that because she didn’t name any names that means she couldn’t be talking specifically about the creator just the ‘general trend’ why would she state the literal time length of the specific video if she wasn’t specifically talking about it.

Whoopsie this image is supposed to be in there as well of vivs second response in that thread that I comment on

Would also like to again and add that she is STILL replying to people talking about this video SPECIFICALLY, she has not claimed otherwise so why are you? , also addressed it in my past replies which I hope you’ve read by now. 👇👇

It..it is? What? To have a massive platform and to openly demean a smaller artist for critiquing you is in itself immoral? That is NOT behavior we should normalize nor ignore? To do so is to worsen the community and to normalize pushing off / take criticism as a personal attacks

Just because she didn’t name them specifically doesn’t mean that she isn’t specifically referring to their video , not only did she post RIGHT after release but she listed/ demeaned specifics from THEIR specific video .

Actually this is a very important question: WHAT is your stance? (Remind me if already stated) Do you think Viv should be held accountable for her actions or not? And do you believe that her continuous behavior is acceptable?

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It IS understandable but to take it out on people who formally critique you is NOT okay. That behavior cannot be excused. And NEEDS to be worked on, the issue is, viv has shown no signs of even wanting to improve, she stands by her demeaning statements, which at the end of the day is NOT okay.

And again not my fault you’re not passionate about defending our communities and holding large creators accountable for their actions . I am. That’s okay , I stand by everything I have said and will always continue to do so, I’m saddened that you do not feel the same way and are ignorant due to bias

Happily will sign this , I usually look out for these issues as well, doesn’t make this discussion any less important.

Never denied once that viv receives hate, both sides have been toxic it’s a sadly unending battle that I will never approve of. Never argued against this , we both AGREE on this.