this could fall under what marx called “slave society” aka antiquity.

in The Family, Private Property and the State, Engels mentions and explains in depth multiple societies where there were kings and chiefs. i can’t remember the specifics but their functions (up till a certain point) were still more democratized than any feudal lord. however—

i thought it was over by now 😭

keep in mind that i did say the concept of primitive communism (to me) is in need of some modernization and correction.

im not sure how those societies wouldn’t fit under the “primitive communism” umbrella. there is still production occurring. i will definitely look into these bc i want to actually have an informed opinion.

why are you so hostile? ive been in a committed relationship for the past year, and im really just sharing my opinion with someone online

we love you S4A

there is no denying the essential correctness of historical materialism.

regarding your “historical holism,” i can only suggest that you dive deeper into historical materialism. im not sure what you could add regarding the development of capitalism in feudal societies. Even if there are corrections to be made regarding “primitive communism” and slave societies—

in regards to the anthropology critiques, you have to understand that Marx and Engels were attempting to make a “holistic” conception of history. They simply had underdeveloped resources when compared to modern anthropologists. 1/2

we all want liberation. this punching left harms not only the worker’s movement but also the native movement. communists and marxists want indigenous self determination.

there are many criticisms of marxism, reductionism is not at all marxist. Historical Materialism is literally a holistic approach to history, albeit focused on production. This production exists in tribal and indigenous cultures. all the way to modern capitalist-imperialist productive relations.

the aggressive nature of your response is unnecessary. i would be more than happy to learn more about these topics. i choose to be a marxist because marxism is all-encompassing and scientific. i don’t doubt that there is wisdom in native communities. studying books is not a shortcut. it takes months

have you read marxist theory? cuz it really seems like y’all are straw manning a theory you know nothing about. give me some books to read about native social theory and i will give you some too.

that’s crazy, your dad taught you classical german philosophy, english political economy and dialectical/historical materialism??