vk.com/video-543615... Mayu Iwatani getting pummeled by Meiko is always fun to watch (15.11.2015)

Seems a typical take on not being able to separate the art from the artist. Fair enough I suppose.

You seem very insecure if you're typing this defensively.

My friend, you seem very narcissistic. Not once have I seen you be happy about anything in wrestling except when it's to wallow in others misery or put down anything, whether deservedly or not. May you have a happy rest of your life, if it is any happy as it is.

Also, calling anything in wrestling objective, in 90% of the cases is very, very stupid.

I'm arguing the fact that the matches are good, watchable. If you only care about moves then yeah, they're not the best matches ever, but try to look at the crowd and what the performers do to get them riled up. It's why I'm appreciating more and more simple stuff, as someone who likes rapidity.

I care about dynamicity in wrestling, but you can't actually watch the match and not be electrified like the crowd was, that's bad faith arguing.

Like obviously nothing of his is a 5 star, but stuff like Rock vs Hogan, the early Manias, some of his WCW pre-Starrcade 97 matches are passable (3.5 out of 5 at most), with the combined effort of heat building plus crowd work doing most of the work. His stuff with Inoki was really good too.

Hilarious. We all agree that Hulk is a shitebag, but if you actually care about watching a wrestling beyond your usual tastes (if you have any, I don't know because I notice you being miserable everywhere instead of sharing what you like), you'd see that Hulk was really good at crowd work.

Try to come up with a list then, he makes an effort at least to classify stuff he watches and likes.

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