I couldn’t agree more. I guess what I have been trying to say all along is that people coming for constitutions are coming for the constitutions regardless of mathematical representativeness. So we better figure something out…

I think that’s the one thing you could have confidence in.

Anne, I also didn’t take it that way. I do get a sense we are all debating in good faith. But, Samantha, none of us are ok! Compassion has to be one of the answers for sure though, right?

Oh the sense of spectatorship still remains, it’s just that the circuses are a little livelier and a lot less dignified than over here.

I think regardless of added regional complexity, you should be able to make some inferences and transfers to the UK. I can't help but think it's dangerously naive to think "can't happen here".

Also, this one time (in the endless cycle of elections) one of the troll parties performed as a biggie, based on the fact that it was formed by a really popular evening show host. That was "fun", thankfully elections followed shortly and they are now trolling from their appropriate size.

I think that's ideally what should happen, but I don't think it happens in my country. Some participants have complex programs. Some are trolls. But they are in, so they have to be listened to.

I am voting from the UK, btw and I am getting really tired of elections. Ashamed to say I didn’t do it last time, partly from election fatigue, partly from disillusionment. Electoral activity in my country is really low, not sure of numbers. But it hasn’t exactly been galvanising to be represented

That’s literally all you have-minority governments or caretaker governments.

It’s going to be the same people though, I think that’s the point. Same people, different maths. They will have different levers of influence. 🤷‍♀️

Oh, I should also add, we have on average around 25-30 parties and partlets to pick from, some (Kremlin aligned) especially created shortly before elections with the explicit purpose to fracture a certain vote. Mathematical representativeness just ain’t it.

Ok, then definitely not.

I think not, but I could be wrong. We have one single choice per ballot, does that mean no?

Bulgarian here. For parliamentary elections my country goes to vote every 18 months(or less) because of impasse between the multiple parties. The country has spent prolonged periods with appointed governments as a result, or with no government, no budget, etc.

My country (Bulgaria) has proportional representation and we go to elections every 18 months because coalitions and consensus are so tricky to form. Mathematical representation is definitely not the reason!