If you watch that video again now, it’s pretty clear he’s hiding something. When Fridman asks about the list, he just says "it’s interesting that it’s not public" and "maybe" it will be someday. Normally, Trump would be all over that, accusing Biden of hiding the list or something...

Here’s what he was saying about end-to-end encryption BEFORE getting briefed by the U.S. intelligence community on the national security risks (you know, the serious people who actually know what they’re talking about).

There was a time when conservative Americans opposed end-to-end encryption for Internet users. Hardline Republicans like Lindsey Graham were very outspoken about it. But even Graham wasn’t stupid enough to push for weakening encryption once he understood the risks to U.S. national security.