I guess I should amend this by saying technically I don't think agriculture actually uses quite as much energy as other things, but it is a huge source of (effective) CO2 pollution due to animal food products so it's still a big environmental concern much moreso than AI.
December 26, 2025 at 8:49 PM
I guess I should amend this by saying technically I don't think agriculture actually uses quite as much energy as other things, but it is a huge source of (effective) CO2 pollution due to animal food products so it's still a big environmental concern much moreso than AI.
The issue with this sort of thinking too is that it's ignoring the big picture. The article you linked for instance says datacenters use 1% of global energy. Now ask yourself, what is the other 99%. Agriculture, traditional industry, transportation. These are the things we should be focusing on.
December 26, 2025 at 8:41 PM
The issue with this sort of thinking too is that it's ignoring the big picture. The article you linked for instance says datacenters use 1% of global energy. Now ask yourself, what is the other 99%. Agriculture, traditional industry, transportation. These are the things we should be focusing on.
And do you really think that if AI didn't exist people would just stop buying computers and wanting to upgrade to newer and better hardware? I agree minimizing waste is good and people can try to conserve stuff better but I don't see how AI is causing more waste than would exist otherwise.
December 26, 2025 at 8:39 PM
And do you really think that if AI didn't exist people would just stop buying computers and wanting to upgrade to newer and better hardware? I agree minimizing waste is good and people can try to conserve stuff better but I don't see how AI is causing more waste than would exist otherwise.
And at the end of the day, the bigger issue I have with the post is the fact that they say computers are "unrecycleable". This is just false. Computers are made of metals which can be melted down and separated, plastics that can be recycled, and stuff like PCBs which are just glass essentially.
December 26, 2025 at 8:02 PM
And at the end of the day, the bigger issue I have with the post is the fact that they say computers are "unrecycleable". This is just false. Computers are made of metals which can be melted down and separated, plastics that can be recycled, and stuff like PCBs which are just glass essentially.
That article is from 2008 so it's pretty out of date with the current state of things. Obviously nothing is perfect but again but you'd be hard pressed to convince me that datacenters are somehow polluting the planet more than say consumers throwing away their own electronics.
December 26, 2025 at 7:43 PM
That article is from 2008 so it's pretty out of date with the current state of things. Obviously nothing is perfect but again but you'd be hard pressed to convince me that datacenters are somehow polluting the planet more than say consumers throwing away their own electronics.
I should specify I am talking about the sort of computer hardware DCs are spending billions on. I'd imagine some electronics like batteries are trickier to recycle. In terms of what DCs buy though I don't think this is a good argument against AI and can be used against consumer computing too.
December 26, 2025 at 3:52 PM
I should specify I am talking about the sort of computer hardware DCs are spending billions on. I'd imagine some electronics like batteries are trickier to recycle. In terms of what DCs buy though I don't think this is a good argument against AI and can be used against consumer computing too.
Also, the value density of electronics like that is quite high. The cost of a GPU is not in the raw materials but rather the R&D and production process. A trillion dollars worth of cars or skyscrapers is likely going to involve much more material usage than the same spent on computer hardware.
December 26, 2025 at 3:46 PM
Also, the value density of electronics like that is quite high. The cost of a GPU is not in the raw materials but rather the R&D and production process. A trillion dollars worth of cars or skyscrapers is likely going to involve much more material usage than the same spent on computer hardware.
What exactly makes you think AI hardware is particularly "unrecycleable"? If anything electronics like that are quite recyclable (often just silicon and metal) and companies will typically dispose of them via e-waste programs. Plastic cups are likely more damaging to the environment realistically.
December 26, 2025 at 3:38 PM
What exactly makes you think AI hardware is particularly "unrecycleable"? If anything electronics like that are quite recyclable (often just silicon and metal) and companies will typically dispose of them via e-waste programs. Plastic cups are likely more damaging to the environment realistically.
A slight inaccuracy in this post was pointed out, I should've said that Lightsolver wasn't kicked from Mare Fair's staff, they resigned after allegations against them became publicly discussed. Additionally, these are only allegations unlike what Searing did which they were convicted of in a court.
November 20, 2025 at 9:47 PM
A slight inaccuracy in this post was pointed out, I should've said that Lightsolver wasn't kicked from Mare Fair's staff, they resigned after allegations against them became publicly discussed. Additionally, these are only allegations unlike what Searing did which they were convicted of in a court.
As for my other point, the article written by Dogpatch Press is full of blatant lies, wild speculation and rumor making it more of a misinformation hitpiece rather than actual journalism. It falls quite short of my standard for "incredible investigative work" hence what I said.
November 17, 2025 at 1:16 AM
As for my other point, the article written by Dogpatch Press is full of blatant lies, wild speculation and rumor making it more of a misinformation hitpiece rather than actual journalism. It falls quite short of my standard for "incredible investigative work" hence what I said.
As someone who has actually participated actively in the fandom for the past 13 years I can say that I do not share their view. People a decade ago largely did not care about imaginary "Nazis" because that term had not been weaponized yet, and people actually knew how to take a joke.
November 17, 2025 at 1:12 AM
As someone who has actually participated actively in the fandom for the past 13 years I can say that I do not share their view. People a decade ago largely did not care about imaginary "Nazis" because that term had not been weaponized yet, and people actually knew how to take a joke.
You're mistaken. They claim to speak as an authority figure in the fandom despite having only a passing interest in it at its peak popularity, likely indicating they never were that deeply involved in it.
Like I said, it is a fact and is relevant to this discussion not just a random attack.
Like I said, it is a fact and is relevant to this discussion not just a random attack.
November 17, 2025 at 1:09 AM
You're mistaken. They claim to speak as an authority figure in the fandom despite having only a passing interest in it at its peak popularity, likely indicating they never were that deeply involved in it.
Like I said, it is a fact and is relevant to this discussion not just a random attack.
Like I said, it is a fact and is relevant to this discussion not just a random attack.
The staff continued to try and to cover up their own lies so they made more excuses like "rate limiting" even though my script obeyed the rate limit. It fooled people like the one you're replying to though into thinking I am somehow the villain. It was never an issue about "botting" uploads.
November 16, 2025 at 10:54 AM
The staff continued to try and to cover up their own lies so they made more excuses like "rate limiting" even though my script obeyed the rate limit. It fooled people like the one you're replying to though into thinking I am somehow the villain. It was never an issue about "botting" uploads.
Come time for the 2 millionth image I was prepared to expose the rigging, another simple script and hit the 2 millionth as well. At that point the same thing happened and I complained about it since I confirmed my suspicions that things were not being done fairly.
November 16, 2025 at 10:52 AM
Come time for the 2 millionth image I was prepared to expose the rigging, another simple script and hit the 2 millionth as well. At that point the same thing happened and I complained about it since I confirmed my suspicions that things were not being done fairly.
I hit the millionth image, however instead of a fair competition like people were expecting, the staff had secretly rigged it to override the upload. This might not have been so bad, except upon questioning the staff denied any sort of rigging and gaslit everyone into thinking it wasn't the case.
November 16, 2025 at 10:51 AM
I hit the millionth image, however instead of a fair competition like people were expecting, the staff had secretly rigged it to override the upload. This might not have been so bad, except upon questioning the staff denied any sort of rigging and gaslit everyone into thinking it wasn't the case.
For the actual story, many were preparing for the millionth image upload (myself included) to try and snipe it, and yes people including myself were employing simple scripts to trigger the upload, that is just how it was done back then for fun.
November 16, 2025 at 10:50 AM
For the actual story, many were preparing for the millionth image upload (myself included) to try and snipe it, and yes people including myself were employing simple scripts to trigger the upload, that is just how it was done back then for fun.
It would be wild if what they said were true I agree! Of course as we both know your little community of friends cannot be honest as that'd mean they would be unable to make people they dislike look bad.
November 16, 2025 at 10:50 AM
It would be wild if what they said were true I agree! Of course as we both know your little community of friends cannot be honest as that'd mean they would be unable to make people they dislike look bad.
Brother that post being shown has nothing to do with Mare Fair, rather it was a reply from a year ago to some prudes on Twitter trying to act like they can police what people are into in the furry community.
Good try though to try and frame it like something it's not.
Good try though to try and frame it like something it's not.
November 16, 2025 at 10:24 AM
Brother that post being shown has nothing to do with Mare Fair, rather it was a reply from a year ago to some prudes on Twitter trying to act like they can police what people are into in the furry community.
Good try though to try and frame it like something it's not.
Good try though to try and frame it like something it's not.
For the record, I in no way support animal abuse like you seem to be implying. In fact, I am a vegan as many who knows me would know since I do care greatly about improving how animals are treated. Fantasy and reality are not the same thing and anyone saying otherwise is simply being disingenuous.
November 16, 2025 at 10:15 AM
For the record, I in no way support animal abuse like you seem to be implying. In fact, I am a vegan as many who knows me would know since I do care greatly about improving how animals are treated. Fantasy and reality are not the same thing and anyone saying otherwise is simply being disingenuous.
Note a defense of zoophilia in this context was referring purely to the fetish and depictions in fantasy material (artwork, writing, etc), not advocating for real life animal abuse.
If you are going to generalize everyone with a fetish negatively you are like my original post said, a bigot.
If you are going to generalize everyone with a fetish negatively you are like my original post said, a bigot.
November 16, 2025 at 10:08 AM
Note a defense of zoophilia in this context was referring purely to the fetish and depictions in fantasy material (artwork, writing, etc), not advocating for real life animal abuse.
If you are going to generalize everyone with a fetish negatively you are like my original post said, a bigot.
If you are going to generalize everyone with a fetish negatively you are like my original post said, a bigot.
I really don't, again other than that you drew a few things that I liked on Derpi. I argue with many people online and I sure don't just remember people because of that. In fact I am historically rather bad with names because my brain has more important things to be remembering I'd imagine.
November 4, 2025 at 5:59 AM
I really don't, again other than that you drew a few things that I liked on Derpi. I argue with many people online and I sure don't just remember people because of that. In fact I am historically rather bad with names because my brain has more important things to be remembering I'd imagine.
I searched up your username afterwards out of curiosity, hate to break it to you but I don't recognize you by even that name. I did like a few of the things you drew though so there's that. Also saying I should remember you because I argued with you once is like: www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6BP...
Do you have the slightest idea how little that narrows it down meme - Original
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November 4, 2025 at 5:25 AM
I searched up your username afterwards out of curiosity, hate to break it to you but I don't recognize you by even that name. I did like a few of the things you drew though so there's that. Also saying I should remember you because I argued with you once is like: www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6BP...
You seem to think it's some crazy revelation that racists exist when some percentage of the general population is. I do not doubt they exist, however I do not "protect" such people.
November 3, 2025 at 7:58 PM
You seem to think it's some crazy revelation that racists exist when some percentage of the general population is. I do not doubt they exist, however I do not "protect" such people.