Finally someone actually explains that there is nuance to the situation. I appreciate your perspective on things like this greatly.
Its so tiring to constantly see arguments like this one were people on either side of it just calling anyone who doesn't totally agree stupid.

To be entirely fair the way Ubi was pretty good at striking that middle ground from AC games having relatively obvious handhold while climbing and FC having robes or climbing gear hanging off of wherever you need to jump up to climb