Soup is a kind way to put it.

I agree, which is why my post is about the individual atheists who might still be like that, not the movement as a whole.

Anything is possible without any empirical evidence go point to the contrary, but it wasn’t incendiary enough for me to consider it staged. I remember feeling very weird about the fact that none of the comments were upset about the things I was upset about. Maybe 2010 discourse was different, too.

But you’re correct that the intent of the video wasn’t to inform, in my opinion. It was for entertainment. I actually found one on YT when I was searching earlier & was pleasantly surprised by their answers to the deconstruction question.

Oh, for sure! I meant the style of the video reminded me of Jubilee when it comes to guessing the odd one out. It was 2010 so, with the exception of some of those huge earlier Yters, YT hadn’t turned into the type of social media site it is today.

I think you hit the nail on the head earlier when you said it sounded like new deconverters— I may just have an inordinate amount of experience with those types, which would make sense seeing as their religious self would be proud of converting people & now they’re simply inverting the concept.

same video, they were very suspicious of one girl who wasn’t familiar with certain atheist writers or hadn’t read them so they voted her off, and that made me chuckle because I would’ve been voted off very quickly in that group.

Or maybe the person who made it deleted their channel. As to whether or not any notable atheists were in it, I wouldn’t have known then and probably wouldn’t even know now. With the exception of someone like Alex, I’m not necessarily heavily into being atheist. Which! That reminds me, in that (2)

Great questions, but I think it was genuine. I also hesitate to suspect things are staged because that is such a right-wing talking point. It was a proto-video of those Jubilee style videos that are popular today. It was likely deleted due to the very low quality. (1)

Truly a sign of the time it was recorded, haha. But one of the questions was, legitimately, how many people have you deconverted. Blew the tits off my body when they then went on to boast about how many people they had deconverted. It changed the way I view certain interactions.

someone who is newly discovering atheism. I was trying to find the video to share with you, but I think it may have been deleted by now. (I watched it in college almost 15 years ago.). There was one of those videos that had a secret Christian in a group of atheists. It was all web cam and Skype (2)

But in this case they’re the one on the offense, not defense. I see how I worded that made it seem like it came from an organic conversation, but I mean when people throw these questions out in an incendiary manner with no precedent in the conversation. I definitely agree that it probably (1)

known record of a potential YHWH came from the Shashu, a nomadic tribe? (Example argument.) Then the religious person, who likely doesn’t know about that, tries to change the subject, but they keep getting pressed about it. That’s the kind of thing I don’t like. It feels like entrapment.

I don’t have a problem with any of that & engage with that kind of content actively when it’s public and people can choose to read/watch it. The issue for me comes from personal engagement where the issue is pushed under the guise of something else: How can you believe in god when the first (1)

Which one? Religious people with genuine questions or atheists who enjoy deconverting religious people? I’ve fortunately and unfortunately (in that order) known both.

They absolute do when they take joy in trying to show religious people inconsistencies and then are genuinely happy about upsetting them. If people have questions, they’ll ask. But atheist who like “deconverting” religious people are the same as evangelicals.