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Jeff Ryan
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Weather nerd, amateur photographer, lover of all things fish, science teacher educator, supporting climate science education in Washington State.
Yes, I think the research would suggest the challenge is eliciting their partial understandings first, and working with their ideas, to help them construct a scientific explanation. In sci Ed we worry less about introducing miscon, more about understanding thinking so we can build their schema.
November 22, 2024 at 5:04 PM
This could make their thinking visible to you and others in the class so you could discuss the ideas as related to density (and energy) and provide further opportunities for investigation driven by their questions and partial understandings.
November 22, 2024 at 4:50 PM
I defer to your content expertise here, but I wonder if your original question about the challenge of students understanding subducting plates isn't driven by a conceptual issue? And if so could it be helpful to ask them to explain/model/draw the lava lamp phenomenon?
November 22, 2024 at 4:48 PM
For what it is worth, here is a write up of this phenomena within the context of high school but it is my belief the concepts of density and energy transfer could be the hang up docs.google.com/document/d/1...
Lava Lamp Convection, ESS2-1, PS1-4
Unit Bundles: Lava Lamp Convection Content Area: Earth and Space Science Convection (Intro to Energy & matter, interior of the earth) Grade Level: 8th Grade Teacher Name(s): Laura Rarig & Ashl...
docs.google.com
November 22, 2024 at 4:31 PM
True, but you cannot really model the transfers of energy in this system without bringing density into the model. Correct?
November 22, 2024 at 4:21 PM
This might be a silly suggestion but, how about observing a lava lamp as a starting place? Model how energy and density changes drive the motion, what forces in this system work to drive the movement? What is the energy story? Then move to plates and density.
November 22, 2024 at 4:06 PM
As a K-12 educator I find the focus on “how I explain” this phenomenon interesting. Doesn’t the shift here need to be asking your students to model and explain their thinking? Then use classroom experiences to help them construct more scientifically accurate explanations? Teaching is not telling.
November 22, 2024 at 2:04 PM
Very cool, thank you!
November 17, 2024 at 4:12 PM
What about a question from the Pacific Northwest? Are there any good web resources to track the movement of the North American plate as the tension builds in the Cascadia Subduction Zone?
November 17, 2024 at 3:59 PM