John R
@john-reid72.bsky.social
Walking the dog, football🏴, travel, golf, Ukraine supporter 🇺🇦, spending time with family and friends.
Worked overseas for a number of years.
Always happy to learn from others.
Worked overseas for a number of years.
Always happy to learn from others.
Does this exclude uk (and Turkey?) as it refers to eu countries?
December 31, 2025 at 7:15 AM
Does this exclude uk (and Turkey?) as it refers to eu countries?
I’m done with this conversation ,by all means have the last comment.Arguments about semantics of something that may/may not happen in five years is truly meaningless
Genuinely enjoyed some of your earlier points re EU. Lost that over a rhetorical Scottish referendum procedure (not even if good/bad)
Genuinely enjoyed some of your earlier points re EU. Lost that over a rhetorical Scottish referendum procedure (not even if good/bad)
December 19, 2025 at 2:22 AM
I’m done with this conversation ,by all means have the last comment.Arguments about semantics of something that may/may not happen in five years is truly meaningless
Genuinely enjoyed some of your earlier points re EU. Lost that over a rhetorical Scottish referendum procedure (not even if good/bad)
Genuinely enjoyed some of your earlier points re EU. Lost that over a rhetorical Scottish referendum procedure (not even if good/bad)
If that’s the case basis it on place of residence. I shouldn’t be able to pick wales having only been there to watch rugby once. This would be a ridiculous.
December 19, 2025 at 2:16 AM
If that’s the case basis it on place of residence. I shouldn’t be able to pick wales having only been there to watch rugby once. This would be a ridiculous.
Agreed and that’s why the last referendum only include people living in Scotland (including EU citizens). Scottish people living in London had no vote, but Derbyshire/Polish:Dutch people living in Falkirk did!
Can’t say fairer than that.
Can’t say fairer than that.
December 19, 2025 at 2:13 AM
Agreed and that’s why the last referendum only include people living in Scotland (including EU citizens). Scottish people living in London had no vote, but Derbyshire/Polish:Dutch people living in Falkirk did!
Can’t say fairer than that.
Can’t say fairer than that.
And there is lies the difference…the differences are the law (Scottish/English solicitor cannot practice in each others countries),education, government and even sporting teams (in World Cup after 28 years!!!)
Genuinely I’m neutral but your comments would push some to vote yes. Still neutral mind.
Genuinely I’m neutral but your comments would push some to vote yes. Still neutral mind.
December 19, 2025 at 2:09 AM
And there is lies the difference…the differences are the law (Scottish/English solicitor cannot practice in each others countries),education, government and even sporting teams (in World Cup after 28 years!!!)
Genuinely I’m neutral but your comments would push some to vote yes. Still neutral mind.
Genuinely I’m neutral but your comments would push some to vote yes. Still neutral mind.
We have run our course.
Shame we couldn’t move pass procedure to the actual pros and cons of Scottish independence.
Shame we couldn’t move pass procedure to the actual pros and cons of Scottish independence.
December 19, 2025 at 2:04 AM
We have run our course.
Shame we couldn’t move pass procedure to the actual pros and cons of Scottish independence.
Shame we couldn’t move pass procedure to the actual pros and cons of Scottish independence.
With due respect Derbyshire is not and has never been a country. Clear difference.
December 19, 2025 at 2:01 AM
With due respect Derbyshire is not and has never been a country. Clear difference.
Don’t understand your point.
I’m highlighting Scotland’s borders are very clearly defined. If independence occur (right/wrong) - zero/nil dispute would arise over the land / sea area covering Scotland due to it being known for over 300 hundred years.
Are you saying these would be changed?
I’m highlighting Scotland’s borders are very clearly defined. If independence occur (right/wrong) - zero/nil dispute would arise over the land / sea area covering Scotland due to it being known for over 300 hundred years.
Are you saying these would be changed?
December 19, 2025 at 2:00 AM
Don’t understand your point.
I’m highlighting Scotland’s borders are very clearly defined. If independence occur (right/wrong) - zero/nil dispute would arise over the land / sea area covering Scotland due to it being known for over 300 hundred years.
Are you saying these would be changed?
I’m highlighting Scotland’s borders are very clearly defined. If independence occur (right/wrong) - zero/nil dispute would arise over the land / sea area covering Scotland due to it being known for over 300 hundred years.
Are you saying these would be changed?
Not disagreeing.My disagreement with you has solely been on the right to self determination solely by the people in Scotland.Not on the rights and wrongs of the actual vote outcome or the right of others in the UK to express an opinion
December 19, 2025 at 1:53 AM
Not disagreeing.My disagreement with you has solely been on the right to self determination solely by the people in Scotland.Not on the rights and wrongs of the actual vote outcome or the right of others in the UK to express an opinion
I’m not. My argument is that every independence vote has only included the place wanting self determination.
As devil’s advocate, Farage (if he won GE) could ask for an England independence vote and people in Scotland should not have a vote.
As devil’s advocate, Farage (if he won GE) could ask for an England independence vote and people in Scotland should not have a vote.
December 19, 2025 at 1:43 AM
I’m not. My argument is that every independence vote has only included the place wanting self determination.
As devil’s advocate, Farage (if he won GE) could ask for an England independence vote and people in Scotland should not have a vote.
As devil’s advocate, Farage (if he won GE) could ask for an England independence vote and people in Scotland should not have a vote.
In this instances we can both have opinions but the legal maps would determine the borders.
December 19, 2025 at 1:39 AM
In this instances we can both have opinions but the legal maps would determine the borders.
Also agree in my numerous notes that I’m dealing with procedure. All parts of UK have right to highlight benefits of uk, but don’t have right to vote.
December 19, 2025 at 1:37 AM
Also agree in my numerous notes that I’m dealing with procedure. All parts of UK have right to highlight benefits of uk, but don’t have right to vote.
Agree to disagree on rights to self determination. I’ll rely on the last 100 years of democratic history as a pointer.
I do agree that if Scotland became independent it would loss all its uk rights (they should be lost as I previously mentioned unless mutually negotiated).
I do agree that if Scotland became independent it would loss all its uk rights (they should be lost as I previously mentioned unless mutually negotiated).
December 19, 2025 at 1:36 AM
Agree to disagree on rights to self determination. I’ll rely on the last 100 years of democratic history as a pointer.
I do agree that if Scotland became independent it would loss all its uk rights (they should be lost as I previously mentioned unless mutually negotiated).
I do agree that if Scotland became independent it would loss all its uk rights (they should be lost as I previously mentioned unless mutually negotiated).
No one is asking for your support (or permission) to hold a vote.
By all means highlight the downsides (they are many and complex). There needs to be strong voices on both sides.
Talking land size and percentage is disingenuous as they are based upon defined borders in place for centuries.
By all means highlight the downsides (they are many and complex). There needs to be strong voices on both sides.
Talking land size and percentage is disingenuous as they are based upon defined borders in place for centuries.
December 19, 2025 at 1:29 AM
No one is asking for your support (or permission) to hold a vote.
By all means highlight the downsides (they are many and complex). There needs to be strong voices on both sides.
Talking land size and percentage is disingenuous as they are based upon defined borders in place for centuries.
By all means highlight the downsides (they are many and complex). There needs to be strong voices on both sides.
Talking land size and percentage is disingenuous as they are based upon defined borders in place for centuries.
Valid point, but doesn’t detract from Canada/quebec, UK/Ireland or Czechia/slovakia.
You are applying a principle that has never been adopted in the democratic world
Can I summarise your position. Being 10x larger than the EU supporting Scotland, England would override our democratic will? Wow.
You are applying a principle that has never been adopted in the democratic world
Can I summarise your position. Being 10x larger than the EU supporting Scotland, England would override our democratic will? Wow.
December 19, 2025 at 1:25 AM
Valid point, but doesn’t detract from Canada/quebec, UK/Ireland or Czechia/slovakia.
You are applying a principle that has never been adopted in the democratic world
Can I summarise your position. Being 10x larger than the EU supporting Scotland, England would override our democratic will? Wow.
You are applying a principle that has never been adopted in the democratic world
Can I summarise your position. Being 10x larger than the EU supporting Scotland, England would override our democratic will? Wow.
Again not addressing the facts that the law is in place and if another referendum it will not change.
Simple answer is no. Only those living or with blood ties to Scotland get a passport.
As would be any right for Scottish people to have English, Welsh or other citizenship.
Simple answer is no. Only those living or with blood ties to Scotland get a passport.
As would be any right for Scottish people to have English, Welsh or other citizenship.
December 19, 2025 at 1:18 AM
Again not addressing the facts that the law is in place and if another referendum it will not change.
Simple answer is no. Only those living or with blood ties to Scotland get a passport.
As would be any right for Scottish people to have English, Welsh or other citizenship.
Simple answer is no. Only those living or with blood ties to Scotland get a passport.
As would be any right for Scottish people to have English, Welsh or other citizenship.
Would appreciate one of your longer answers on the difference between Ireland before independence and Scotland today. To me they are almost identical scenarios.
December 19, 2025 at 1:15 AM
Would appreciate one of your longer answers on the difference between Ireland before independence and Scotland today. To me they are almost identical scenarios.
Can I ask why countries of the UK are different from the rest of the world?
December 19, 2025 at 1:13 AM
Can I ask why countries of the UK are different from the rest of the world?
And Ireland in the 1920’s after centuries of UK rule?
And Czechia and Slovakia?
And Czechia and Slovakia?
December 19, 2025 at 1:12 AM
And Ireland in the 1920’s after centuries of UK rule?
And Czechia and Slovakia?
And Czechia and Slovakia?
This is semantics.
Procedure is set by earlier act of parliament. No other part of UK will get a vote - simple fact. This is in line with global approach adopted in Europe and Canada.
By all means argue about the pros and cons (there are many issues) but on the right to a vote is misguided.
Procedure is set by earlier act of parliament. No other part of UK will get a vote - simple fact. This is in line with global approach adopted in Europe and Canada.
By all means argue about the pros and cons (there are many issues) but on the right to a vote is misguided.
Digital Sansad
Digital Sansad
parliament.in
December 19, 2025 at 1:10 AM
This is semantics.
Procedure is set by earlier act of parliament. No other part of UK will get a vote - simple fact. This is in line with global approach adopted in Europe and Canada.
By all means argue about the pros and cons (there are many issues) but on the right to a vote is misguided.
Procedure is set by earlier act of parliament. No other part of UK will get a vote - simple fact. This is in line with global approach adopted in Europe and Canada.
By all means argue about the pros and cons (there are many issues) but on the right to a vote is misguided.
So all the commonwealth countries including, Australia, S.Africa, Jamaica with smaller populations than UK should have given UK a vote in their independence
What about Ireland?1920’’s
Countries in Europe managed quite well like Czechia and Slovakia
Again, aside from the choice it is our right
What about Ireland?1920’’s
Countries in Europe managed quite well like Czechia and Slovakia
Again, aside from the choice it is our right
December 19, 2025 at 1:04 AM
So all the commonwealth countries including, Australia, S.Africa, Jamaica with smaller populations than UK should have given UK a vote in their independence
What about Ireland?1920’’s
Countries in Europe managed quite well like Czechia and Slovakia
Again, aside from the choice it is our right
What about Ireland?1920’’s
Countries in Europe managed quite well like Czechia and Slovakia
Again, aside from the choice it is our right
Sorry no.
Scotland would have to bear significant downsides (I again only deal with procedure) if they choose self determination .
Please name one instance through history were a country has become independent in Europe , the obsolete commonwealth etc the larger part has had a vote?
Scotland would have to bear significant downsides (I again only deal with procedure) if they choose self determination .
Please name one instance through history were a country has become independent in Europe , the obsolete commonwealth etc the larger part has had a vote?
December 19, 2025 at 12:52 AM
Sorry no.
Scotland would have to bear significant downsides (I again only deal with procedure) if they choose self determination .
Please name one instance through history were a country has become independent in Europe , the obsolete commonwealth etc the larger part has had a vote?
Scotland would have to bear significant downsides (I again only deal with procedure) if they choose self determination .
Please name one instance through history were a country has become independent in Europe , the obsolete commonwealth etc the larger part has had a vote?
Noted.Scotland have right to self determination due to the way the union was created. Unions can end
Scotland are not a tool for relations with EU and UK. Scotland voted strongly to stay in. We (right or wrong) have the right to decide in line with democracy, in breach of it). As do England.
Scotland are not a tool for relations with EU and UK. Scotland voted strongly to stay in. We (right or wrong) have the right to decide in line with democracy, in breach of it). As do England.
December 19, 2025 at 12:48 AM
Noted.Scotland have right to self determination due to the way the union was created. Unions can end
Scotland are not a tool for relations with EU and UK. Scotland voted strongly to stay in. We (right or wrong) have the right to decide in line with democracy, in breach of it). As do England.
Scotland are not a tool for relations with EU and UK. Scotland voted strongly to stay in. We (right or wrong) have the right to decide in line with democracy, in breach of it). As do England.
You’ve make some valid points I agree with on UK and EU-though I would present differently
Don’t know why you are expending so much energy on a theoretical independence vote when (by previous democratic precedence) you will have no vote. This fact supersedes any opinion any of us have on the issue
Don’t know why you are expending so much energy on a theoretical independence vote when (by previous democratic precedence) you will have no vote. This fact supersedes any opinion any of us have on the issue
December 19, 2025 at 12:34 AM
You’ve make some valid points I agree with on UK and EU-though I would present differently
Don’t know why you are expending so much energy on a theoretical independence vote when (by previous democratic precedence) you will have no vote. This fact supersedes any opinion any of us have on the issue
Don’t know why you are expending so much energy on a theoretical independence vote when (by previous democratic precedence) you will have no vote. This fact supersedes any opinion any of us have on the issue