major contributors to the development of modern virtue ethics Foot and Murdoch were not conservatives. (but here again we'd have to pay attention to women!) yet theologians often talk as if the invocation of "virtue" must go one political direction.

true. my worry is more that we tend to over-theorize certain methods as inherently tied to some political stance or another. virtue ethics is a case in point—it's often described as inherently conservative, but it's modern history is way more complex.

Dorrien argued that Tanner, Serene Jones, Eugene Rogers, etc. = strand of postliberalism reconnecting w liberalism. (Rogers just describes himself as a liberal in recent writings.) Maybe theological methods/tendencies can't be neatly divvied up into ideological camps! (Reichel relevant here)

indeed.

was noticing this yesterday in Long's intro to theology and culture, where he has to label Tanner as a "postmodern feminist" and then make up stuff about her to distinguish her from postliberalism.

bc then they would have to deal with Tanner and that would mess up their narratives.

also, is #scaleup a thing? when i click on it i mostly see biz/tech stuff, not social movement organizing stuff.

that's definitely a significant part of it. (not to the exclusion of local action)

Wonderful, Max, can't wait to read it—and everything else you've been putting out!

Thanks, Drew, meant a lot to see you there.

Thank you.

Wait, I actually want to hear this paper.

Agreed, Bill, great to see you last night!

No.

makes sense to me. always seemed like it was a bit of an out (don't have to deal w all the baggage of Gen 3)—but attractive for that reason. will check out the Moberly.

shouldn't*

what about Cain/Abel? Yr predecessor Goldingay thought we should talk about sin until Gen 4.

Then what does that make Alexander?

Had the privilege of performing with her once in Edinburgh. Incredible player.