If I had to bandy about my anthropology credentials as much as Daniel does, I’d start to wonder which junior college associate’s degree he has.

Daniel, you’re getting lazy. I didn’t write Israelis, I wrote Jews. Jews are murdering Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank.

Just think starting a war you can neither win nor lose is really stupid. The air arms of the military always tell the leaders you can collapse a country via air attacks and no dead kids on our side. Has never worked. Not Germany, absent nukes not Japan, not Hezbollah, not Ghaza.

If you are really an anthropologist, ie advanced or terminal degrees in the field, how does שואה = نكبة or even cultural appropriation? نكب far antecedes שואה linguistically. Go back to being a theistic Jew. At least the Sky King gives you footing.

Point still stands. Indigenous Palestinians protecting their lands are responsible for Jews shooting them and hating them because they say Jews shouldn’t steal their land or kill them. Jews have no agency, just reacting to Palestinians being mean to them.

Daniel is so intellectually dishonest. He said to me that Palestinians are responsible for illegal Israeli settlements because they prohibit Israeli settlements on Palestinian lands. So Arabs responsible for Israeli expropriations and anti-Palestinian doctrine.

Daniel is just intellectually dishonest. If you trespass on my land (illegally) you’re the criminal. Israelis stealing WB and GS land, murdering indigenous people illegally are Israeli crimes. He’s a declared atheist so his only basis is indigenous co-existence. He can’t face that.

So Israel can then just sit back, expropriate land, shoot Palestinians because “they started it?” Nice compassion gap.

On purchased land, possibly. That doesn’t justify outright theft of land by West Bank settlers.

So end it. Israel makes the offer, full citizenship, equal rights, end movement restrictions. If Palestinians reject it, that’s on them.

النكبة
was disastrous and a humanitarian blot on Israeli history. I’d love to see your reference to the Syrian Arab nationalist documenting their motive for the Arabic word for catastrophe.

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Yep with full citizenship for all living in the lands between the Jordan River and the sea. Freedom of movement, protection of private property
rights, equal protections by law enforcement. No more “illegal” settlements. They could purchase land from current owners if all agree to a fair price.

100% Israel with full citizenship for all from Jordan River to the sea. Free right of movement, employment, citizenship.

Create one state with equal rights for all rather than an oppress apartheid regime.

Well, returning Jews of various ethnicities perhaps sharing maternal mitochondrial DNA purchased land from impoverished Palestinians. What Palestinian state allowed by Israel is nonetheless a state. Racist exclusion of Palestinians is just racist.

Israel and Judea were destroyed as well, no? So Jews lost their claim to the land?

That’s just silly. Palestinians have lived there for hundreds of years, own their land, farm it, raise families there. Every bit as indigenous as Jews. Just acknowledge you’re expropriating land from indigenous folk. Claim you’re “more indigenous”, but still.

Still, as a self described atheist you know there’s no moral right to the land.