*Note* I'm fully aware of the impracticalities of secession and the restraints under the CA and US constitution.

Not at all. We've got systems and laws and procedures in place to challenge things and hold folks accountable. But if we throw around baseless claims like the extremists do, then we're no better and they truly will have won.

Correct. Every time any we question whether an election was won without foul play, they have won. Every time we look at a judge and question whether the decision was politically motivated, they have won. We must have faith in the systems in place and support folks who will do what is right.