Also I do appreciate the irony of wanting to challenge the concept when engagement is what the creator wants, but honestly the concept and associated misinformation seems to be getting ridiculous and other than non engagement I would love to understand better how to combat it.

2/2... of which there seems increasing amounts. I can't help but feel that bots, algorithms, disinformation and some creators including media/news are relying on this more. Often it seems intentional ignorance to invite negative engagement, which apparently works. www.iflscience.com/the-confront...

2/2 more right leaning as a lot of policies and actions on that end of the spectrum seem to be more detrimental towards vulnerable people in general. Im sure there is a significant amount of issue with propaganda for some but would love to understand wider reasons. Any recommendations to explore?

Hi Mike, really enjoy your posts, I really agree with the concept of constructive and reasonable discussion from varied perspectives. However, as a paramedic and social worker I tend have a somewhat left leaning bubble. I honestly would love to understand why some people gravitate and vote 1/2

To be fair I am not up to speed on the Scottish law side and has been interesting to hear about differences! I agree as well about the difficulties of the NR using those powers on personal relationships, it is incredibly rare it is used though and they would/should be guided and supported.

Thank you, I will have a look. The Mental Health Bill is being reviewed in England as well so likely changes too, including the nominated person recommendation. Thanks again.

I have seen NR power used once I think but regularly reminded of it on legal updates! I am intrigued to see how the nominated persons amendment works as its not yet in place in England. If you have any links/information around its implementation in Scotland they would be very welcome.

Really enjoying the space, it has felt very welcoming, constructive and informative, a nice change!

After a brief look seems like the Nearest Relative sections are the same. However I am happy to be corrected. Also I appreciate the 2007 amendments to the act but it didn't really change anything around Nearest Relatives.

1983 however I realise this is England and Wales specifically as I am less familiar with Scottish law.

This link has some useful information. However you are completely right about the bed situation! Hope you don't mind me chiming in!

www.mind.org.uk/information-...

I agree there are a lot of misunderstandings and the process is more complex than often realised. However, I just wanted to mention that families (specifically nearest relatives) do have the power to apply for detention. It's not often used and the AMHP usually applies for the detention.

Really interesting to hear it being discussed in a frank and personal manner. Some good comments from Heston about the stigma associations too.