Is there a good resource to explain this sort of asset appreciation if the revenue does not support it? Accounting tricks? Status value of ownership? I'm sure it's multiple things, but hard for me to understand.

Could you expand on this? While Yglesias and Noah Smith, who you criticized earlier this week, are imperfect and can be glib and annoying, I find their arguments persuasive. I like and respect all 3 of y’all’s work and want to understand the specifics so I can think about what I may be missing.

Good conversation and appreciate the goals of each of them, but I feel both Jon and Bernie hand wave past the complexity and trade-offs the types of changes they want would entail.

Jen Pahlka would be a great guest for Jon to delve into both the day-to-day and cultural barriers that exist.