Some people care Mike.

And so, yes, Ueno is back.

Blammo!

www.ueno.co

But after four years away from Ueno it kept picking at me.

This little itch. The feeling I get when someone comes with something that's just an idea and they want our help to see it become real. It feels like magic. Like alchemy. I missed that feeling.

I built a lot of wheelchair ramps, I built a restaurant and movie theater, a bank, a recording studio, a community for creative people. I started a podcast, released a visual album, acted in some movies.
I did everything I always wanted to do.

And it was great.

We did some great work and I learned more than I could have imagined. About corporate ups and downs, and about my own ups and downs. I saw things you wouldn’t believe.

And then suddenly I was free and I went and made some other things.

I wanted a challenge and the biggest one I could find was Twitter. To help people make better connections, to find their communities, engage more earnestly.

Things didn't turn out like I expected. But in hindsight that's not really what matters.

I had been on the outside for a long time, working for companies to make something and then we’d hand it off to them to nurture and grow it. I wanted to be on the inside of a big company and see things through, to see them grow.

Ueno had grown over those seven years to multiple offices and over 100 people. We were working with the biggest brands in the world on some really exciting projects. But still, I felt like something was missing.

And seven years later I sold it to Twitter for a lot of money.

But it wasn't the money. That's maybe hard to believe but that wasn't the reason. Business was great, I didn't need money. I needed a new challenge.

On today's episode with Andy we talk about his work with Conan O'Brian, working on movies and TV shows, being a theatre kid in a small town, the state of Hollywood (it's not good) and finding happiness.

Find us wherever you got your podcasts.

Let's Walk is a podcast where I go for walks with creative people and we talk about their life and work. Upcoming guests are award winning authors, directors, actors, dancers, composers and so much more.

Of course.

You had me at Haile

Are you here? I thought I got rid of you.

Big fan.