Howie
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It could have been done together. Maybe. 🤷♂️ But now nuclear is unviable, unnecessary & only serves to prolong burning fossil fuels and elect an anti-climate gov. Can’t understand how you don’t see that. A myopic view on nuclear ignoring the environmental, social and political. It’s naive and harmful.
December 19, 2024 at 2:41 PM
It could have been done together. Maybe. 🤷♂️ But now nuclear is unviable, unnecessary & only serves to prolong burning fossil fuels and elect an anti-climate gov. Can’t understand how you don’t see that. A myopic view on nuclear ignoring the environmental, social and political. It’s naive and harmful.
This isn’t about making enemies. Don’t need more of those. But the pro-nuclear movement in Aus IS the enemy of climate action. That’s not the case in other countries. But here it’s unviable, unnecessary, and only serves to prolong burning fossil fuels and elect an anti-climate government.
December 19, 2024 at 2:38 PM
This isn’t about making enemies. Don’t need more of those. But the pro-nuclear movement in Aus IS the enemy of climate action. That’s not the case in other countries. But here it’s unviable, unnecessary, and only serves to prolong burning fossil fuels and elect an anti-climate government.
That's like joining the animal right movement and making it about improving leather upholstery. Makes zero sense.
December 19, 2024 at 1:03 PM
That's like joining the animal right movement and making it about improving leather upholstery. Makes zero sense.
Seems the only accounting that it’s presenting nuclear as feasible is that commissioned by those who have political or financial profit to be gained. Discrediting legitimate independent agencies when the data goes against your stance is harmful to all Australians
December 14, 2024 at 2:43 AM
Seems the only accounting that it’s presenting nuclear as feasible is that commissioned by those who have political or financial profit to be gained. Discrediting legitimate independent agencies when the data goes against your stance is harmful to all Australians
You’re clearly very smart and know the potential benefits of nuclear in the right setting; but here and now it’s badly misinformed if you’re as strong of a climate advocate as I think you believe you are.
December 14, 2024 at 2:41 AM
You’re clearly very smart and know the potential benefits of nuclear in the right setting; but here and now it’s badly misinformed if you’re as strong of a climate advocate as I think you believe you are.
So advocating for it (particularly as a funded organisation) does make your attendance (as an individual) at those actions mean nothing. Attending actions ain’t nothing. But WePlanet don’t do that advocacy directly.
December 14, 2024 at 2:41 AM
So advocating for it (particularly as a funded organisation) does make your attendance (as an individual) at those actions mean nothing. Attending actions ain’t nothing. But WePlanet don’t do that advocacy directly.
Nuclear isn’t a bad part of the energy mix IF this was the 1990s. But now, it’s not feasible and is just a means for the LNP to win an election at the (very high) expense of the climate.
December 14, 2024 at 2:41 AM
Nuclear isn’t a bad part of the energy mix IF this was the 1990s. But now, it’s not feasible and is just a means for the LNP to win an election at the (very high) expense of the climate.
The push for nuclear in Aus is absolutely about burning coal & gas for longer. That’s why the LNP (& the Minerals Council) want it. The party is strongly anti-renewables and so advocating for nuclear aids their cause, benefits the fossil fuel industry, and is hurting investment in renewables.
December 14, 2024 at 2:41 AM
The push for nuclear in Aus is absolutely about burning coal & gas for longer. That’s why the LNP (& the Minerals Council) want it. The party is strongly anti-renewables and so advocating for nuclear aids their cause, benefits the fossil fuel industry, and is hurting investment in renewables.
That argument is stronger than any of the others made in favour of nuclear.
December 12, 2024 at 12:18 PM
That argument is stronger than any of the others made in favour of nuclear.
That’s an important correction. And right to be made. The quick search produced a BTI page with you listed on it. Apologies
December 12, 2024 at 7:53 AM
That’s an important correction. And right to be made. The quick search produced a BTI page with you listed on it. Apologies
I can’t speak to Germany. Don’t know enough to so won’t. Can speak to Australia though
December 12, 2024 at 7:52 AM
I can’t speak to Germany. Don’t know enough to so won’t. Can speak to Australia though
Actually agree with you on this. IF Australia had taken up nuclear 20 years ago it would’ve made sense. But it’s 2024 and it’s too late for it here now
December 12, 2024 at 7:51 AM
Actually agree with you on this. IF Australia had taken up nuclear 20 years ago it would’ve made sense. But it’s 2024 and it’s too late for it here now
Pretending to be part of the climate movement while serving the nuclear industry, and then having the gall to claim you’re being bullied when the movement doesn’t welcome you with open arms is the most Regina George move I’ve ever seen.
December 12, 2024 at 7:49 AM
Pretending to be part of the climate movement while serving the nuclear industry, and then having the gall to claim you’re being bullied when the movement doesn’t welcome you with open arms is the most Regina George move I’ve ever seen.
Responding to your attack on “climate activists” by posting publicly available information about the denialist views of your organisation & leader is mean girls? Riiiight. The climate movement is probably one of the most diverse & welcoming out there. But will call out imposters when they see one.
December 12, 2024 at 7:49 AM
Responding to your attack on “climate activists” by posting publicly available information about the denialist views of your organisation & leader is mean girls? Riiiight. The climate movement is probably one of the most diverse & welcoming out there. But will call out imposters when they see one.
You're trying to say activists think nuclear has higher emissions - do you have sources for the climate orgs that are claiming that?
December 12, 2024 at 5:22 AM
You're trying to say activists think nuclear has higher emissions - do you have sources for the climate orgs that are claiming that?
And carbon emissions are key, no argument there. Those opposing nuclear energy in Australia don't disagree with this being a strength for nuclear, but it's not the only consideration. It's not needed here, and not feasible (economically or logistically).
December 12, 2024 at 5:22 AM
And carbon emissions are key, no argument there. Those opposing nuclear energy in Australia don't disagree with this being a strength for nuclear, but it's not the only consideration. It's not needed here, and not feasible (economically or logistically).
Wait, you think climate activists don't attack coal?! Lol, that's only been central to the movement for literally decades. What are you even talking about? You do understand that the movement can be against coal AND nuclear right?
December 12, 2024 at 5:22 AM
Wait, you think climate activists don't attack coal?! Lol, that's only been central to the movement for literally decades. What are you even talking about? You do understand that the movement can be against coal AND nuclear right?
Which part of the anti-nuclear movement ever complained that it would kill the coal industry? That line came from the people and organisations you're now working with who have flipped only to get the LNP elected.
December 12, 2024 at 4:35 AM
Which part of the anti-nuclear movement ever complained that it would kill the coal industry? That line came from the people and organisations you're now working with who have flipped only to get the LNP elected.
Most folk don't have a choice in where their electricity currently comes from. So this is awfully disingenuous. "Climate activists" (at least in Australia) want renewable energy, which the nuclear energy debate only undermines
December 12, 2024 at 4:28 AM
Most folk don't have a choice in where their electricity currently comes from. So this is awfully disingenuous. "Climate activists" (at least in Australia) want renewable energy, which the nuclear energy debate only undermines
If their intention is only to win an election (as is the entirety of the Coalition's nuclear proposal) then that might make sense, but Labor - for all their faults - know nuclear isn't viable from the timelines alone.
December 12, 2024 at 4:26 AM
If their intention is only to win an election (as is the entirety of the Coalition's nuclear proposal) then that might make sense, but Labor - for all their faults - know nuclear isn't viable from the timelines alone.
Your claim to be evidence-based falls apart here, as renewables and storage CAN deliver what we need. And you also ignore the impact even talking about nuclear has on investor confidence in renewables. Which is obviously part of the strategy behind the Coalition's push for nuclear
December 12, 2024 at 4:23 AM
Your claim to be evidence-based falls apart here, as renewables and storage CAN deliver what we need. And you also ignore the impact even talking about nuclear has on investor confidence in renewables. Which is obviously part of the strategy behind the Coalition's push for nuclear
The diagram puts Fusion Party in the group as a nuclear advocate, isn't that literally what you're doing here? Is it just that you don't like seeing who your bed fellows are?
December 12, 2024 at 4:20 AM
The diagram puts Fusion Party in the group as a nuclear advocate, isn't that literally what you're doing here? Is it just that you don't like seeing who your bed fellows are?