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The bit leading up has to be seen to be believed. ICE erased students from the official foreign student database and told them to leave the country.
When Banias and others sued, ICE said nothing relevant had changed and the students could stay. Maybe? Or maybe not. Who knows? Not the government!
When Banias and others sued, ICE said nothing relevant had changed and the students could stay. Maybe? Or maybe not. Who knows? Not the government!
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Here is the colloquy leading up to this paragraph.
The judge coined the term "Shrodinger's Visa," which I find appropriate and pithy. #SaveSEVIS
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MR. [DOJ ATTORNEY]
I'm not able to answer that question,
Your Honor.
THE COURT: How are you not able to answer that
question? What does that even mean? He's either here legally or he's not here legally. You're the government's lawyer. Is he here legally? I mean, how is Mr. [client] supposed to know if he's here legally if you don't even know if he is here legally?
MR. He was lawfully admitted to the United
States --
THE COURT: No, no, Mr. [DOJ Attorney] there's a -- no, no Mr. [DOJ Attorney] there is a yes or no answer here. We are not --
this is not Schrodinger's visa, either he's here legally or he's not here legally. If you cannot answer the question, you have to explain to me why you cannot answer that question.
MR. [DOJ ATTORNEY]
I cannot answer that question. I have
talked to ICE as to whether or not they consider at this point in time the individual, whether or not they are maintaining lawful status.
THE COURT: And what does ICE say to that?
MR. [DOJ ATTORNEY]
I have not received a response](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:2vtbmhmrwzbqcfv4we4uxzzt/bafkreifhs73rqksovslobfolhcryr4gfur6rdnoedo6bn6jbn2hoxactnu@jpeg)
April 22, 2025 at 2:29 AM
The bit leading up has to be seen to be believed. ICE erased students from the official foreign student database and told them to leave the country.
When Banias and others sued, ICE said nothing relevant had changed and the students could stay. Maybe? Or maybe not. Who knows? Not the government!
When Banias and others sued, ICE said nothing relevant had changed and the students could stay. Maybe? Or maybe not. Who knows? Not the government!