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Really interesting thread, thanks

That's my rabbit hole journey exhausted for the evening...

A mighty tome, interesting discussion of the emergence of relative measures (Pg 59 etc seq) from the 19
60s (crediting Townsend and others) but unclear exactly when govts adopted them and how the lines were drawn - suggests Townsend himself was wary of the arbitrary line
iea.org.uk/wp-content/u...

I'm pretty sure I have a book somewhere called something thrilling like The Development of Poverty Indicators in the EU. I'll see if I can dig it out.

I found this which suggests it came from Townsend's study of poverty: peteradamsonwriting.com/essays/short...

He published a seminal book on poverty I think in 1979

I have a feeling it came from research by Peter Townsend? I may have that wrong. I am pretty sure I knew the answer to this at a point in my life.

I completely agree, but it has become politically unsayable. I think the transformation of work towards gig and precarious work makes these arguments and discussions all the more urgent.

It tells us that if you are a political party and these are the exact things you say to the public, you will have very substantive support.

Hard agree. I think people who pay a lot of tax don't really realise how limited tax data is in reflecting populations

And definitely this, re care

I don't think tax data is the answer? Really a lot of people are not captured in our tax datasets as they are not taxpayers

Looks like a really interesting seminar series, thanks.