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A podcast for the discussion of all things Dragon Ball! Uncovering the culture and hidden history behind Akira Toriyama's seminal franchise.
Must be a Canadian thing
November 15, 2025 at 3:33 AM
Yamcha's lot in life is loss. He'd have tripped on his shoes or something.
November 14, 2025 at 9:17 PM
The Super Saiyan transformation is based on enlightenment to Buddhahood. They were calling you an enlightened being. 😉
November 14, 2025 at 9:17 PM
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Also feel free to sound of on General White, Muscle Tower, the Red Ribbon Army, or anything else in the comments!
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November 13, 2025 at 4:20 PM
These all underscore something about White himself. This will happen throughout Dragon Ball, especially with Frieza, where Dodoria is his ruthlessness, Zarbon his vanity, Ginyu his showboating nature, etc...Toriyama understood that fights are fun, but the true sauce is the character work underneath.
November 13, 2025 at 4:20 PM
Buyon is defeated by exposure to cold air, a bit of foreshadowing that perhaps the nature/locale of Muscle Tower itself will be its own undoing, as well as a commentary on the fragility of those with such monstrous personalities.
November 13, 2025 at 4:20 PM
Buyon (aka The Jiggler) is a hidden villain, existing on a floor only accessible via a trap door in General White's actual command center room. This shows White's hidden monstrous nature, and how he is basically not even a human being, but a grotesque beast that kills indiscriminately.
November 13, 2025 at 4:20 PM
8er (Hachan, Android 8) isn't loyal to General White, so I only want to mention him for completeness, but his creation and the way White treats him ARE revealing in showing just how little General White values the lives and feelings of others.
November 13, 2025 at 4:20 PM
Murasaki is also clowned on pretty heavily, which is a bit of foreshadowing in telling us that perhaps General White is not AS powerful and unconquerable as he might seem at a glance. There's a lot to the Murasaki character, which we'll discuss in another thread some day, as well.
November 13, 2025 at 4:20 PM
Up next is Ninja Murasaki, who exposes the cunning nature of General White. Murasaki is crafty and deceitful, and his interactions with White underscore this deceptive nature. He's also arrogant and brash, incapable of understanding how anyone could compete with him, another trait shared with White.
November 13, 2025 at 4:20 PM
Major Metallitron is defeated resoundingly, and Goku moves on to his next opponent, but the reveal that this character is a robot underscores the entendre of his name being Metallic/Metallitron. Every RRA member is named after a color, and that color underscores their personality in some way.
November 13, 2025 at 4:20 PM
Goku then fights Major Metallitron (aka Sergeant Metallic). This character shows General White's physical strenght, his reliance on that strength, and his machine-like lack of empathy, decision-making, and obedience to his own superiors.
November 13, 2025 at 4:20 PM
When Goku enters Muscle Tower, he fights a bunch of goons. These are actually the lieutenants & sergeants of the Red Ribbon Army (Goku skips the first floor that houses enlisted men) This underscores how little the RRA (White, specifically) cares about the "nameless" underlings in their command.
November 13, 2025 at 4:20 PM
General White is the ranking officer of the Red Ribbon Army overseeing Muscle Tower, and due to this arc's very video-game-like progression, as Goku fights his way through the tower, we learn more and more about this commander, how he treats his troops, and his own personality/psychology.
November 13, 2025 at 4:20 PM
We've done an episode fairly devoted to General White, which you can check out here:
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We also talk about the psychology underneath Dragon Ball fights throughout the show, so make sure you're listening along!
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November 13, 2025 at 4:20 PM
I love Muscle Tower. And Tao Pai Pai, and the Land of Korin. The pillar toss is a top 5 moment in all of Dragon Ball.

Not General Blue though. It feels listless, AND is pretty problematic.
November 13, 2025 at 2:32 PM
November 12, 2025 at 8:14 PM
The bad new is, you have to wait. The good news is, we're on top of our stuff and if a bus were to fall out of the sky right now and crush every bone in my body, the podcast would still run automatically for so long, there'd be rumors swirling that I am not actually dead.
November 12, 2025 at 6:25 PM