I am obligated to share this meme again

I concur, thanks for the talk though.

You have said a free market society cannot be virtuous; all systems are fallible; capitalism always becomes oligarchy; and that virtue is in trying to improve a system. If virtue can't exist in a free market, what's to stop oligarchy happening instantly? I'm trying to say that virtue can still exist

I'm not sure what else I'm supposed to infer haha. If virtue stands against the devolution of capitalsm into oligarchy, what's to say that virtue can't exist in a free market?

Again, I absolutely agree. Your initial comment said that capitalsm is rigged and always leads to oligarchy eventually. You restated your point was that all systems are fallible. What does a fallible system look like if not something tyrannical? Oligarchy is by its nature tyrannical

On all points I agree. I think the question I asked was flawed. By your logic all systems are fallible so all systems will devolve into tyranny eventually, would that not be a reasonable conclusion to draw from your point?
Perhaps virtue and trying to maintain virtue actually stands against tyranny?

Completely reasonable! Text can be notorious for losing subtext

Ergo is a bit broad a stroke wouldn't you say?

I'm saddened to read you reduce my personal views. My apologies if I've offended you or made you feel like I was attacking you, that is not the case.
I think perhaps we should agree to disagree.

That's absolutely possible, I often find realism skews into the negative and while that has its use I'm not sure it's always as reflective of reality as the name suggests. I don't think I can speak on your experience with Buddhism, but I've seen it have a positive effect on many people in my life.

Your conclusion is a bit too cynical for my tastes haha; maybe I just have a bit more hope left to lose. Virtue isn't a place, but a journey, I agree. I think a society that tries to be virtuous is virtuous for the act of trying.

I'm concerned I misread that, is your opinion that society cannot be virtuous? How do we build a better system if all systems we create are fallible?

Do you think that a free market world can be virtuous? In your opinion, Is the devolution into oligarchy a product of the system or the people it creates?

Lamest oligarchy, I don't think a soap opera could've written it worse.

He's precious, nothing to fear lol