My own view is that the fact that we’re willing to move back to fascism over and over again is a deep-rooted, animal flaw that we’re not able to perceive.

My worry is that what we’re up against is a biological limitation, in that humans are biologically incapable of cooperating on the level required to force systemic change, and that occasional societal collapse is a genetic bottleneck that eliminates more selfish behavioral patterns over time.

I like this conversation, you strike me as conflict-oriented in the Marxist sense, and you have some interesting awareness of the dynamics of information that are shaping our present society.

How does one package the socialist message in ways that overcome media brainwashing is what I want to see

Very strange analogy, putting the proletariat in the role of a disabled person. I think that the condition of the average person is still comfortable enough (in the US) that they are not required to be class conscious. They have yet to conceptualize the wheelchair, let alone know they need one

Maybe some iteration of it, or some different form of messaging

Yes, because at the time, nobody had, and it hadn’t been communicated in a way that made it resonate with the vast majority of people, and the circumstances to change things hadn’t arrived.

And what of the systems that have already been replaced? They didn’t disappear, they maintained themselves by force until a better idea arrived. Monarchy is dead.

I just don’t think we’ve found the perfect iteration of those concepts. We’ve already iterated over the ideas plenty of times with different historical forms and evolutions of feminism and race equity. We’re getting much closer, all these ideas used to be dismissed outright, and now it’s accepted

My question is if it’s actually meant to, why hasn’t it? Socialism has existed since 1850, and in the time since, has not replaced capitalism. This is not due to lack of effort, socialists and leftists have been trying to replace capitalism endlessly, but serious popular support still isn’t there.

Covid has permanently damaged our collective response to disease

It could be a huge, calamitous change and not a redefinition. But as it is now, the idea that will replace Capitalism has yet to be thought.

The system is a reflection of its individual parts. I think it’s just a method by which we’ll formulate some new, bigger idea.