If he didn’t see it on Fox - recently - Trump is completely oblivious to it. Other people aren’t interesting to him anyway. Unless he’s doing something relating Trump (his prior life didn’t), Kelly doesn’t really exist to Trump. It’s like Trump lacks object permanence for people.

No disagreement with that.

Absolutely. The higher you go, the harder the pushback should be. In the end though what will hold them accountable and stop this is elections and Congress reasserting their constitutional role.

Fuck no. Get back to us when he’s been dead 100 years and we’ll revisit it.

There has been some interaction between the guard and civilians but mostly that’s been in support of ice. Questionable legality. To the best of my knowledge, it’s ICE, not the military that’s been detaining people.

The boat attacks are in my opinion extrajudicial killings and therefore an illegal order. However they’ve cooked up a legal opinion from the jag that says otherwise. Hard for a 19 year old kid pressing the fire button to go against that.

Ice has been horrific but so far the regular army has stayed home and the guard has been most notable for doing pretty much nothing. I recognize the danger from the administration but the military itself hasn’t taken obviously unlawful actions.

I see your point and agree that leaders that presume their orders are legal just because they issue them are dangerous.

A military member though must begin with a presumption that the orders they receive are legal. It’s a big thing for someone down the chain to decide on their own otherwise.

The higher you go, the greater the responsibility for legality.

The lower you are, the greater the risk disobeying an order.

The system presumes officers are civilian leaders of integrity. It’s a problem when the top two national military leaders are corrupt and lawless.

This reflects that orders are presumed lawful, and the burden is on challenging that presumption.

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“An act performed pursuant to a lawful order is justified. … An act performed pursuant to an unlawful order is excused unless the accused knew it to be unlawful or a person of ordinary sense and understanding would have known it to be unlawful.”

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Here is relevant commentary from the Manual for Courts‑Martial, United States (MCM) regarding the presumption of lawfulness of military orders:

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It should be a brief trial unless whiskey Pete stacks the panel.

In U.S. military law, orders are presumed lawful based on the Uniform Code of Military Justice and command authority. A service member must obey unless the order is “manifestly illegal,” such as violating the Constitution or requiring a clearly criminal act.

In psychopathology, psychosis is a condition in which one is unable to distinguish, in one's experience of life, between what is and is not real.

She’s asking only the wrong questions. I predict she’ll never ask the right questions.

It is not necessary to posit they are puppets. Texas republicans are in full embrace of his fascist ideology. They helped originate it. They’re fully committed to it with or without Trump.

Trump had those fresh sheets put on for nothing. Sad!

A backpedal and and a soft shoe. Very talented.