Ekho
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• Raging millennial female trash
• Writer
• Caffeine addict
• Purveyor of pointless endeavors
• AuDHD loser
• Hands are always cold
Precisely! I'm getting a lot of pushback here for saying that while I prefer reading, listening to audiobooks is no less a valid method of consuming media. But that doesn't make it *reading*.
And. That's. Okay. Why can't it just be okay? Why does it have to be anything else? 😮💨
And. That's. Okay. Why can't it just be okay? Why does it have to be anything else? 😮💨
November 23, 2024 at 4:40 PM
Precisely! I'm getting a lot of pushback here for saying that while I prefer reading, listening to audiobooks is no less a valid method of consuming media. But that doesn't make it *reading*.
And. That's. Okay. Why can't it just be okay? Why does it have to be anything else? 😮💨
And. That's. Okay. Why can't it just be okay? Why does it have to be anything else? 😮💨
I'm of the opinion that listening to audiobooks does not count as reading, just as reading a script doesn't count as watching a movie. You are consuming media in a different way, and that is perfectly acceptable.
That is all.
That is all.
November 23, 2024 at 6:15 AM
I'm of the opinion that listening to audiobooks does not count as reading, just as reading a script doesn't count as watching a movie. You are consuming media in a different way, and that is perfectly acceptable.
That is all.
That is all.
No, I'm not a fan of Shakespeare, so I would prefer not to indulge either one.
November 23, 2024 at 6:11 AM
No, I'm not a fan of Shakespeare, so I would prefer not to indulge either one.
You realize that word usage is the entire point of this discussion and the entire point that I've been making, right?
November 23, 2024 at 6:09 AM
You realize that word usage is the entire point of this discussion and the entire point that I've been making, right?
You're making up context where there is none for an argument that doesn't exist here.
That's not my definition of reading, it's an example in response to the question of whether two people enjoying the same story get the same thing out of different means of consuming it.
That's not my definition of reading, it's an example in response to the question of whether two people enjoying the same story get the same thing out of different means of consuming it.
November 23, 2024 at 12:43 AM
You're making up context where there is none for an argument that doesn't exist here.
That's not my definition of reading, it's an example in response to the question of whether two people enjoying the same story get the same thing out of different means of consuming it.
That's not my definition of reading, it's an example in response to the question of whether two people enjoying the same story get the same thing out of different means of consuming it.
Have you been watching me?
November 23, 2024 at 12:25 AM
Have you been watching me?
No, that's listening.
November 23, 2024 at 12:22 AM
No, that's listening.
While I agree that everyone is right to enjoy whatever form of storytelling fits them best (seriously, go for it!), I disagree that they are both reading. And it seems like a bad idea to encourage the implication that a child learning to read can gain literacy from listening.
November 22, 2024 at 11:37 PM
While I agree that everyone is right to enjoy whatever form of storytelling fits them best (seriously, go for it!), I disagree that they are both reading. And it seems like a bad idea to encourage the implication that a child learning to read can gain literacy from listening.
I don't disagree with listening to audiobooks at all. If that's how you best enjoy your stories, then I'm thrilled you've found your medium.
However, it is not the same as reading, nor is it the same as watching.
I, for one, don't really do TV or movies; I just don't enjoy them overmuch. 🤷♀️
However, it is not the same as reading, nor is it the same as watching.
I, for one, don't really do TV or movies; I just don't enjoy them overmuch. 🤷♀️
November 22, 2024 at 11:30 PM
I don't disagree with listening to audiobooks at all. If that's how you best enjoy your stories, then I'm thrilled you've found your medium.
However, it is not the same as reading, nor is it the same as watching.
I, for one, don't really do TV or movies; I just don't enjoy them overmuch. 🤷♀️
However, it is not the same as reading, nor is it the same as watching.
I, for one, don't really do TV or movies; I just don't enjoy them overmuch. 🤷♀️
Not to the same extent that I do whilst reading.
Reading the dialogue from the FL in a book, based on the descriptions, she comes across as witty and maybe a bit dry.
Listening to a narration of the same book, she now sounds like a valley girl cheerleader.
It changes my whole impression. 🤷♀️
Reading the dialogue from the FL in a book, based on the descriptions, she comes across as witty and maybe a bit dry.
Listening to a narration of the same book, she now sounds like a valley girl cheerleader.
It changes my whole impression. 🤷♀️
November 22, 2024 at 11:25 PM
Not to the same extent that I do whilst reading.
Reading the dialogue from the FL in a book, based on the descriptions, she comes across as witty and maybe a bit dry.
Listening to a narration of the same book, she now sounds like a valley girl cheerleader.
It changes my whole impression. 🤷♀️
Reading the dialogue from the FL in a book, based on the descriptions, she comes across as witty and maybe a bit dry.
Listening to a narration of the same book, she now sounds like a valley girl cheerleader.
It changes my whole impression. 🤷♀️
And why is that? I'm interested in your reasoning.
November 22, 2024 at 11:18 PM
And why is that? I'm interested in your reasoning.
I'm not putting down those who enjoy audiobooks, as I've said in another comment, and I disagree with the participants of this conversation that suggest it's a lesser means of enjoying a story.
However, I'm in full opposition to the argument that listening to an audiobook is the same as reading.
However, I'm in full opposition to the argument that listening to an audiobook is the same as reading.
November 22, 2024 at 11:14 PM
I'm not putting down those who enjoy audiobooks, as I've said in another comment, and I disagree with the participants of this conversation that suggest it's a lesser means of enjoying a story.
However, I'm in full opposition to the argument that listening to an audiobook is the same as reading.
However, I'm in full opposition to the argument that listening to an audiobook is the same as reading.
Stop this madness. Think of the children, Stewart.
November 22, 2024 at 3:44 PM
Stop this madness. Think of the children, Stewart.
How dare I? Very carefully and with years of training for this very moment.
There's no way you'll convince a jury that it was punintentional.
We've got you now, Roy.
There's no way you'll convince a jury that it was punintentional.
We've got you now, Roy.
November 22, 2024 at 3:40 PM
How dare I? Very carefully and with years of training for this very moment.
There's no way you'll convince a jury that it was punintentional.
We've got you now, Roy.
There's no way you'll convince a jury that it was punintentional.
We've got you now, Roy.
It's two songs that are doing the ADHD remix tango in my brain.
I Don't Know How We Got Here by VOLA
&
Can You Feel My Heart by Bring Me the Horizon
I Don't Know How We Got Here by VOLA
&
Can You Feel My Heart by Bring Me the Horizon
November 22, 2024 at 3:35 PM
It's two songs that are doing the ADHD remix tango in my brain.
I Don't Know How We Got Here by VOLA
&
Can You Feel My Heart by Bring Me the Horizon
I Don't Know How We Got Here by VOLA
&
Can You Feel My Heart by Bring Me the Horizon
Now, that's hardly a fair question.
Obviously the latter... If it's Morgan Freeman. 🤷♀️
Obviously the latter... If it's Morgan Freeman. 🤷♀️
November 22, 2024 at 3:22 PM
Now, that's hardly a fair question.
Obviously the latter... If it's Morgan Freeman. 🤷♀️
Obviously the latter... If it's Morgan Freeman. 🤷♀️
Right, but in the context of literacy, I think it's reasonable to argue that it is not the same as having read it.
My grandmother is illiterate and after reading a book to her for a second time, she caught sight of the MC's name and the spelling surprised her, because it wasn't what she imagined. 🤷♀️
My grandmother is illiterate and after reading a book to her for a second time, she caught sight of the MC's name and the spelling surprised her, because it wasn't what she imagined. 🤷♀️
November 22, 2024 at 3:19 PM
Right, but in the context of literacy, I think it's reasonable to argue that it is not the same as having read it.
My grandmother is illiterate and after reading a book to her for a second time, she caught sight of the MC's name and the spelling surprised her, because it wasn't what she imagined. 🤷♀️
My grandmother is illiterate and after reading a book to her for a second time, she caught sight of the MC's name and the spelling surprised her, because it wasn't what she imagined. 🤷♀️
Thank you for the pun. I appreciate you.
November 22, 2024 at 3:11 PM
Thank you for the pun. I appreciate you.
I am willing to concede that two people who've absorbed the same story through different means may be able to discuss the story, but are likely to have very different perspectives on it. For the same reason, I wouldn't trust someone to read a binding contract to me.
November 22, 2024 at 3:06 PM
I am willing to concede that two people who've absorbed the same story through different means may be able to discuss the story, but are likely to have very different perspectives on it. For the same reason, I wouldn't trust someone to read a binding contract to me.