Mmm good point, wrong of me adding that in the list!

Way clearer, thank you 😊

That was the inspiration for this one bsky.app/profile/drst...

Given how he's a petulant manchild that gets emotional over the comments of a teenager girl, I'd say that even small s stoicism AND broicism is above him.

>> my issue with the statement is that on one side I see the virtue of justice being incompatible with many policies, on the other that this kind of statement is so vague it can be said of pretty much any philosophy or political stance.

Thanks in advance for the correction if I misunderstood

> so if that statement is true of parties it's even more true of philosophies. Anyway, I'll try steelmanning: what I understand you saying is that stoicism is compatible with any political stance and at best may require to take into account the wellbeing of ppl involved. >>

Firstly, this is a "learn aloud" account I have. If anything, thank you for teaching me. Secondly, I'm sorry if my tone is off, this is my second language, I lose a lot in translation. Third(ly? Is it a thing?) parties usually are more stringent on policy than philosophies. >

by that standard ... not even being a card carrying party member would entail any particular policy per se... so what'the point you are trying to make? The vaguest truism?

Hell to the yeah, link please!

Just the encouragement I needed, thanks

Youtube? Or what?

2/2 "This doctrine is heroic, and, in a bad world, useful; but it is neither quite true nor, in a fundamental sense, quite sincere."

Bertrand, a great thinker but I don't think he saw himself a stoic. He wrote: "There is, in fact, an element of sour grapes in Stoicism. We can't be happy, but we can be good; let us therefore pretend that, so long as we are good, it doesn't matter being unhappy. 1/2

As long as conmen can fool techbros into paying for a "success" mind-hack... these guys will keep selling.

It's all fine and dandy, but at some point you have the ideal of justice and some dude saying he wants to deport/murder millions. It's clear that he cannot hold that and be a stoic in any sense.
So stoicism definitely does entail some politics.

Rome stoicism? Is Zeno of Citium a joke to you?