This was awesome. Jon and Ollie is my favorite football podcast. One more thing on the Bucs O-line. Think you are forgetting the Bucs also lost Cody Mauch for the year. Right now they are starting 2 guys at guard who started the year on the practice squad.

1. Don’t look at DVOA 2 weeks into the season.
2. The Bucs are 19th in DVOA. OK That is correct. Also they would be 11th but they are currently on pace to have the worst special teams of all time. Which is the only reason the Texans had a chance 12 point swing
3. I still agree with your Jets pick

Yes the Vikings were 14-3 but they were more like a 10-7 team. They were 9-1 in 1 score games had the 9th best point differential behind Chargers Broncos Bucs and beat 2 playoff teams all year. There is a reason their over under is where it is and it would be the same with Darnold.

Also I don’t disagree that Seattle could be the 8th best team in the NFC for the 4th straight year but big difference between that and them being a top 12 team in the league.

Sure. But their 10th win was barely beating the Rams backups. If the Rams had to try that game at home and played their starters. They probably win and Seattle is 9-8. Besides beating Rams backups. They beat one playoff team and it was the Broncos in Bo Nix first start

Gregg you really think the Seahawks are cardinals are BOTH one of the 12 best power rated teams in the league ? I think if you actually made a list you would be hard pressed to have them there. They are 19th and 20th in superbowl odds

Dak played 8 games last year. Thats more than half the season. Certainly not 5. 28th in QBR.

x.com/duncondemand... gotta agree with DK. The amount of sprays in just 3 games is pretty insane.

Who is the best defensive player he’s drafted Patrick!? Who!?

@greggrosenthal.bsky.social I can’t get over the Terry pick at 9. It’s year 5. 0 winning seasons. The main reason the team missed the playoffs was the defense was terrible. So bad he had to trade a future 1st to draft a 2nd edge rusher this year. Who is the best defensive player he has drafted?

Think this was more Mike McD than you may think. It never seemed like he loved Geno. Certainly not happy with the red zone turnovers last year.

I think you might have missed 21 Rams too! Although wasn’t listening as closely for them. Mostly agreed with the list !

@jourdanrodrigue.bsky.social Gregg in what world did the Bucs have a much easier schedule than Seattle ? Bucs SOS was higher. They also beat 4 playoff teams. Seattle beat 2 one of which was the backup Rams and the other was First start Bo Nix. Bucs had much more high quality wins.

‪FYI Gregg the packers would have been the 7 seed even if they had won. Washington had the tiebreaker. ‬

Robert gonna need you to give @qbklass.bsky.social some grief for his Chargers shutting down the Bucs take lol. 500 yards 40 points 0 punts. He forgot about the run game. Excited for pod.