He's a husband, father and grandfather yet this is how he spends Christmas day. What a sad and pathetic man.

The world forgave you once and then you re-elected him and gave him a majority in both houses of Congress. When your opposition party held power they did nothing to address the criminality of his first term or prevent his return. They still aren't promising to do anything.
Why would you be forgiven?

But they talk about their issues so confidently and with such certainty in every interview and in the group chats they share with journalists that their statements are treated as true. "Everyone I talk to at conservative events believes this so it must reflect a broad consensus."

And we generally trust the outcomes. Even if the result isn't what our intuition says it should be you rarely hear people complain about the process.

My kindergarten teaching wife just caught her third cold in 4 weeks. It's rough out here.

Can you please explain this to me? I read Tom as saying that talking with people trying to concoct ways around the presidential pardon power is like talking to children. I'm saying that the president pardoning people will not make it easier for Venezuela to prosecute them. How is he right about me?

good answer on what people should do about that.

But I don't think that accepting a pardon will make it easier for a foreign government to charge and convict these people.

relevant to the topic at hand.

Now this is all distinct from how I feel about the actual guilt of the people were talking about. If media reports are accurate these people have committed murder and in a just world they would be punished accordingly. We're not in that world and I don't have a /3

would make it easier for a foreign government to convict them, because they had confessed to the crime by accepting the pardon. The 10th circuit ruled in 2021 that a soldier pardoned by Trump had not admitted guilt by accepting a pardon for murdering 2 civilians and I'd think that's highly /2

Those cases all say "imply a confession of guilt" but I'm saying that's different from a legally binding admission of guilt. You may think I'm splitting too fine a hair but I disagree. If you look back to the comment I originally responded to the poster suggested that by accepting a pardon it /1

Biden pardoned Faucci to protect him from COVID conspiracy theorists in the second Trump administration. If your argument is correct -a position not found in US law- you're saying that by accepting the pardon Faucci was admitting to every wacky claim against him.

I did read the entire thing. The word guilt doesn't even appear in the article. It's not relevant to the topic at all. Acceptance of a pardon is necessary for it to be complete. That was the entire point of Burdick. But acceptance of a pardon is not and never has been a legal admission of guilt.

That article isn't relevant to the topic being discussed. If you are looking at the part about a pardon being accepted you've missed my point. A pardon must be accepted to be in force but accepting a pardon does not require an admission of guilt.

If it did require an admission of guilt then a factually innocent person who was railroaded by the system could never truly be exonerated.

A pardon does not and never has required an admission of guilt. This is a widespread belief but it's wrong. In the non-binding dictum to Burdick v. United States the justices suggested that accepting a pardon is an admission of guilt it's not a legal precedent.

A life well lived.

My father died years before my children were born. I often think of how much he would have loved them and what they've missed from not knowing him. But I just can't imagine having them talk to this abomination. This would be so much worse than what we have now.

They are so willing to believe a convicted pedophile and sex trafficker.

Except Trump did it in his usual fashion and didn't bother to set up rounding rules. Just told the mint to stop making them and walked away.