Anna! Im at cerf too. Hope to see you this week.

I think it would be reasonable to believe they number popes like floors in buildings and the pope before Leo 14 was Leo 12.

Me too. This is why I mostly listen to the Volts podcast. Totally add free. It's pretty enlightening to boot.

Respectfully, I don't think it's fair to blame the de-extinction crowd for this. I think Trump administration wants to pull species off the endangered list and are using whatever they can find as post hoc justification.