In conclusion I think literary podcasts really "have what it takes."

But conversational literary podcasts are uniquely suited for this kind of experience.

You can hear this all happen in the show (season 6, episode 4). It's hard to register something similar in prose—to get thinking onto the page as it develops in conversation. Obviously some people can do that, and I think Dostoevsky happens to be one of them.

That episode then became about the extremities of logic—incompleteness theorems, parallel lines meeting in infinity or in other geometries. Making the show was consciousness-expanding.

Then he says, and you can hear this in the show: "here's where you patch in a mathematician" to explain Kurt Gödel's theorem. Because it's a podcast, I can do that. After we recorded the radio play and that conversation with Garth and Andrew, I went to talk to a mathematician at MIT.

I wanted a chance to re-read it! which I will do ..............starting ....................

now!

Yes!