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(and yeah, there is something to be said about removing it rather than changing categories, but even if it is the book of diseases saying it, it's still good that what is being said is "transness, not a disease")
September 2, 2025 at 5:53 AM
(and yeah, there is something to be said about removing it rather than changing categories, but even if it is the book of diseases saying it, it's still good that what is being said is "transness, not a disease")
(not just in my country btw, but I have lived experience here)
I think my point stands. The CID change wasn't euphemistic, it did have very concrete effects for at least a whole country.
Because it wasn't just words, it was de-pathologizing.
I think my point stands. The CID change wasn't euphemistic, it did have very concrete effects for at least a whole country.
Because it wasn't just words, it was de-pathologizing.
September 2, 2025 at 5:53 AM
(not just in my country btw, but I have lived experience here)
I think my point stands. The CID change wasn't euphemistic, it did have very concrete effects for at least a whole country.
Because it wasn't just words, it was de-pathologizing.
I think my point stands. The CID change wasn't euphemistic, it did have very concrete effects for at least a whole country.
Because it wasn't just words, it was de-pathologizing.
You heard someone say "it worked where I live" and answered with "it didn't work for me, so it's useless".
You mention "the overall lack of tangible progress", does the very tangible progress I saw in my country just not count, for whatever reason?
You mention "the overall lack of tangible progress", does the very tangible progress I saw in my country just not count, for whatever reason?
September 2, 2025 at 5:53 AM
You heard someone say "it worked where I live" and answered with "it didn't work for me, so it's useless".
You mention "the overall lack of tangible progress", does the very tangible progress I saw in my country just not count, for whatever reason?
You mention "the overall lack of tangible progress", does the very tangible progress I saw in my country just not count, for whatever reason?
And the conclusion for "it made a difference here, it didn't make a difference there" is not "it's useless euphemism", but rather "it works, sometimes".
The recognition of tactics that work sometimes is, in my opinion, important, and the expectation of a perfect solution, unrealistic.
The recognition of tactics that work sometimes is, in my opinion, important, and the expectation of a perfect solution, unrealistic.
September 2, 2025 at 5:53 AM
And the conclusion for "it made a difference here, it didn't make a difference there" is not "it's useless euphemism", but rather "it works, sometimes".
The recognition of tactics that work sometimes is, in my opinion, important, and the expectation of a perfect solution, unrealistic.
The recognition of tactics that work sometimes is, in my opinion, important, and the expectation of a perfect solution, unrealistic.
I know folks from the militancy who fought for those changes and I know how important it was for them to have a reputable source backing them up.
This isn't in the realm of expectations, it's in the realm of I know the difference it made and still makes.
This isn't in the realm of expectations, it's in the realm of I know the difference it made and still makes.
September 2, 2025 at 5:53 AM
I know folks from the militancy who fought for those changes and I know how important it was for them to have a reputable source backing them up.
This isn't in the realm of expectations, it's in the realm of I know the difference it made and still makes.
This isn't in the realm of expectations, it's in the realm of I know the difference it made and still makes.
Sorry, I've been thinking about this.
What I was saying isn't "there should have been", but rather there is.
I live that progress, it had concrete effects in my life. I transitioned right after the change hit and saw the orientations change from "you need psych approval" to "informed consent".
What I was saying isn't "there should have been", but rather there is.
I live that progress, it had concrete effects in my life. I transitioned right after the change hit and saw the orientations change from "you need psych approval" to "informed consent".
September 2, 2025 at 5:53 AM
Sorry, I've been thinking about this.
What I was saying isn't "there should have been", but rather there is.
I live that progress, it had concrete effects in my life. I transitioned right after the change hit and saw the orientations change from "you need psych approval" to "informed consent".
What I was saying isn't "there should have been", but rather there is.
I live that progress, it had concrete effects in my life. I transitioned right after the change hit and saw the orientations change from "you need psych approval" to "informed consent".
(and I'm sorry that you don't/didn't)
(which is probably why you have that opinion, I guess)
(which is probably why you have that opinion, I guess)
September 1, 2025 at 5:51 PM
(and I'm sorry that you don't/didn't)
(which is probably why you have that opinion, I guess)
(which is probably why you have that opinion, I guess)
I actually do =/
(which is why I have this opinion, I guess)
(which is why I have this opinion, I guess)
September 1, 2025 at 5:42 PM
I actually do =/
(which is why I have this opinion, I guess)
(which is why I have this opinion, I guess)
Even if it's a political win. It's still a win. And it was absolutely shaped by politics. In this case, trans-positive politics. Not a bad or unimportant thing at all.
September 1, 2025 at 5:37 PM
Even if it's a political win. It's still a win. And it was absolutely shaped by politics. In this case, trans-positive politics. Not a bad or unimportant thing at all.
Scientific consensus is fabricated, but that doesn't mean it doesn't matter, much to the contrary.
So scientific consensus that transness is okay and not a disease is a pretty big win, even if not an eternal or immutable one.
So scientific consensus that transness is okay and not a disease is a pretty big win, even if not an eternal or immutable one.
September 1, 2025 at 5:37 PM
Scientific consensus is fabricated, but that doesn't mean it doesn't matter, much to the contrary.
So scientific consensus that transness is okay and not a disease is a pretty big win, even if not an eternal or immutable one.
So scientific consensus that transness is okay and not a disease is a pretty big win, even if not an eternal or immutable one.
yeah, but it's still a twist, it still takes some doing. And as easy as it is to twist it, it's way easier to cite it as its clear original intent.
September 1, 2025 at 5:37 PM
yeah, but it's still a twist, it still takes some doing. And as easy as it is to twist it, it's way easier to cite it as its clear original intent.
Following the DSM is absolutely obviously political (tho that doesn't stop it from happening), but following the UN or international treaties on human rights does pass as way more neutral though.
September 1, 2025 at 5:31 PM
Following the DSM is absolutely obviously political (tho that doesn't stop it from happening), but following the UN or international treaties on human rights does pass as way more neutral though.
(I didn't mean to imply you were in the US, it just ocurred to me that the US has, or is a side in that one)
(the UN and international treaties on human rights *do* affect the rest of the world tho)
(I mean, the US also does affect the rest of the world, no sense pretending otherwise, but yeah)
(the UN and international treaties on human rights *do* affect the rest of the world tho)
(I mean, the US also does affect the rest of the world, no sense pretending otherwise, but yeah)
September 1, 2025 at 5:31 PM
(I didn't mean to imply you were in the US, it just ocurred to me that the US has, or is a side in that one)
(the UN and international treaties on human rights *do* affect the rest of the world tho)
(I mean, the US also does affect the rest of the world, no sense pretending otherwise, but yeah)
(the UN and international treaties on human rights *do* affect the rest of the world tho)
(I mean, the US also does affect the rest of the world, no sense pretending otherwise, but yeah)
But yeah, most of that change was seen in more open-minded countries, not in the imperial core.
September 1, 2025 at 5:27 PM
But yeah, most of that change was seen in more open-minded countries, not in the imperial core.
My point was, the CID change did lead to a lot of tangible change, even if it didn't translate to a complete annihilation of transphobic practices all around the world.
September 1, 2025 at 5:27 PM
My point was, the CID change did lead to a lot of tangible change, even if it didn't translate to a complete annihilation of transphobic practices all around the world.
It's a way different fight if the militancy is saying "you have to give us rights because we say so" or "you have to give us rights because there's an international consensus about it and human rights professionals all over the world agree with us and here's our very public and established sources"
September 1, 2025 at 5:23 PM
It's a way different fight if the militancy is saying "you have to give us rights because we say so" or "you have to give us rights because there's an international consensus about it and human rights professionals all over the world agree with us and here's our very public and established sources"
I still think it makes a difference to have an international consensus on "transness is not an illness", even if I do agree it's not always (or often) followed.
I still think it's important though.
It is not policy, but it helps shape policy.
I still think it's important though.
It is not policy, but it helps shape policy.
September 1, 2025 at 5:23 PM
I still think it makes a difference to have an international consensus on "transness is not an illness", even if I do agree it's not always (or often) followed.
I still think it's important though.
It is not policy, but it helps shape policy.
I still think it's important though.
It is not policy, but it helps shape policy.
Unless you're in the US, in which case you're just under DSM and, well, yeah. I guess this wouldn't make a difference, because the US is just fucked.
September 1, 2025 at 5:17 PM
Unless you're in the US, in which case you're just under DSM and, well, yeah. I guess this wouldn't make a difference, because the US is just fucked.
And the fact that one of them (DSM/US) says transness is an ilness while the other (CID/UN) says transness is just a characteristic also matters a lot.
September 1, 2025 at 5:17 PM
And the fact that one of them (DSM/US) says transness is an ilness while the other (CID/UN) says transness is just a characteristic also matters a lot.
There's a reason why people trying to fuck with that point to "gender dysphoria" and not "gender incongruence".
The different definitions set by some of the world's dominant powers (the UN and the US) do matter a lot in shaping policy.
The different definitions set by some of the world's dominant powers (the UN and the US) do matter a lot in shaping policy.
September 1, 2025 at 5:17 PM
There's a reason why people trying to fuck with that point to "gender dysphoria" and not "gender incongruence".
The different definitions set by some of the world's dominant powers (the UN and the US) do matter a lot in shaping policy.
The different definitions set by some of the world's dominant powers (the UN and the US) do matter a lot in shaping policy.
Like, I am categorized as nothing. Just a person. Most of my documents are identical to a cis person's.
Why? Because policy in here was shaped by the notion that transness is just a thing, not a disease. And having CID codify that helped a hell of a lot with that.
Why? Because policy in here was shaped by the notion that transness is just a thing, not a disease. And having CID codify that helped a hell of a lot with that.
September 1, 2025 at 5:17 PM
Like, I am categorized as nothing. Just a person. Most of my documents are identical to a cis person's.
Why? Because policy in here was shaped by the notion that transness is just a thing, not a disease. And having CID codify that helped a hell of a lot with that.
Why? Because policy in here was shaped by the notion that transness is just a thing, not a disease. And having CID codify that helped a hell of a lot with that.
DSM puts it as a mental illness, which justifies the need for
psychiatrists and psychologists.
That difference between mental illness or sexual characteristic is essential.
psychiatrists and psychologists.
That difference between mental illness or sexual characteristic is essential.
September 1, 2025 at 5:05 PM
DSM puts it as a mental illness, which justifies the need for
psychiatrists and psychologists.
That difference between mental illness or sexual characteristic is essential.
psychiatrists and psychologists.
That difference between mental illness or sexual characteristic is essential.
And, again, the regulation of transition *is* the pathologizing of it. If you take from CID's current definition, transness is just a sexual characteristic, so it makes no sense to require medical professionals to regulate it.
September 1, 2025 at 5:05 PM
And, again, the regulation of transition *is* the pathologizing of it. If you take from CID's current definition, transness is just a sexual characteristic, so it makes no sense to require medical professionals to regulate it.