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A person’s morality cannot be measure by how much they could’ve taken from others, but didn’t. It’s measure on how much they did take. Taylor takes too much.
A person’s morality cannot be measure by how much they could’ve taken from others, but didn’t. It’s measure on how much they did take. Taylor takes too much.
December 7, 2024 at 9:58 PM
And?
A person’s morality cannot be measure by how much they could’ve taken from others, but didn’t. It’s measure on how much they did take. Taylor takes too much.
A person’s morality cannot be measure by how much they could’ve taken from others, but didn’t. It’s measure on how much they did take. Taylor takes too much.
On average, they don’t. They do more harm than good. That’s the meat of the issue.
December 7, 2024 at 9:56 PM
On average, they don’t. They do more harm than good. That’s the meat of the issue.
Taylor is an example of a billionaire with VERY good publicity. She has been very generous. But not generous enough if she’s still a billionaire. Have you seen the price of her tickets? What part of “nobody needs that much money, and therefore, if they hoard it, they are immoral” do you not get?
December 7, 2024 at 9:17 PM
Taylor is an example of a billionaire with VERY good publicity. She has been very generous. But not generous enough if she’s still a billionaire. Have you seen the price of her tickets? What part of “nobody needs that much money, and therefore, if they hoard it, they are immoral” do you not get?
Whatever is done with someone’s wealth after their death is irrelevant. That’s not “giving.” That’s being dead and having no use for money anymore.
December 7, 2024 at 9:13 PM
Whatever is done with someone’s wealth after their death is irrelevant. That’s not “giving.” That’s being dead and having no use for money anymore.
Whatever percentage takes him well below a billion dollars, for a start. After that, it gets more difficult, but I personally can’t imagine any human ever needing more than $100 million to live in luxury until death.
December 7, 2024 at 9:12 PM
Whatever percentage takes him well below a billion dollars, for a start. After that, it gets more difficult, but I personally can’t imagine any human ever needing more than $100 million to live in luxury until death.
Look at Dolly Parton. She has been extremely wealthy for decades. She has likely made well over a billion dollars. But she has never HAD a billion dollars. She helps so many with so much giving that her net worth never reached that milestone. And even she could stand to give much more.
December 7, 2024 at 9:06 PM
Look at Dolly Parton. She has been extremely wealthy for decades. She has likely made well over a billion dollars. But she has never HAD a billion dollars. She helps so many with so much giving that her net worth never reached that milestone. And even she could stand to give much more.
Your argument does not, in any way, shape, or form, support my view. Even suggesting so is laughable. Lebron did not take the sponsorship deal in order to redistribute wealth to others. He took it to redistribute wealth to himself. He happens to have given a very small amount of it to charity.
December 7, 2024 at 9:03 PM
Your argument does not, in any way, shape, or form, support my view. Even suggesting so is laughable. Lebron did not take the sponsorship deal in order to redistribute wealth to others. He took it to redistribute wealth to himself. He happens to have given a very small amount of it to charity.
They’re still billionaires, though. And I guarantee you they will continue to be. They had to steal the labor of others to get there. A moral person would never reach billionaire status (or, if they suddenly came into it, would lose billionaire status almost immediately).
December 7, 2024 at 8:59 PM
They’re still billionaires, though. And I guarantee you they will continue to be. They had to steal the labor of others to get there. A moral person would never reach billionaire status (or, if they suddenly came into it, would lose billionaire status almost immediately).
No, you still don’t get it. I define morality by a person’s actions as well. What someone does with wealth, given the opportunity, is just an indicator of that.
December 7, 2024 at 8:52 PM
No, you still don’t get it. I define morality by a person’s actions as well. What someone does with wealth, given the opportunity, is just an indicator of that.
A moral person who has more of something than they could ever conceivably use will share that commodity with those who have less, or none. An immoral person might hoard the commodity instead. It’s that simple.
December 7, 2024 at 8:46 PM
A moral person who has more of something than they could ever conceivably use will share that commodity with those who have less, or none. An immoral person might hoard the commodity instead. It’s that simple.
“Wildly” clearly includes anyone with a net worth over a billion U.S. dollars. If you made $5000 a day, every day, since the “discovery” of America, you still wouldn’t have a billion dollars. That’s WILDLY wealthy. It absolutely is a measurement of morality.
December 7, 2024 at 8:40 PM
“Wildly” clearly includes anyone with a net worth over a billion U.S. dollars. If you made $5000 a day, every day, since the “discovery” of America, you still wouldn’t have a billion dollars. That’s WILDLY wealthy. It absolutely is a measurement of morality.
I’m sorry you don’t get it, but that’s what’s happening here. You don’t just get to hand wave “no ethical consumption” away by removing capitalism from the equation. We live under capitalism. Globally. And it’s not a political system, by the way. It’s Earth’s economic system.
December 7, 2024 at 8:34 PM
I’m sorry you don’t get it, but that’s what’s happening here. You don’t just get to hand wave “no ethical consumption” away by removing capitalism from the equation. We live under capitalism. Globally. And it’s not a political system, by the way. It’s Earth’s economic system.
That’s not my argument. Wake up. There is zero hypocrisy in saying that all billionaires are evil. Nobody needs that much, nobody’s labor is worth that much, and nobody can make that much without stealing from the labor of others. Again, look up “no ethical consumption under capitalism.”
December 7, 2024 at 8:30 PM
That’s not my argument. Wake up. There is zero hypocrisy in saying that all billionaires are evil. Nobody needs that much, nobody’s labor is worth that much, and nobody can make that much without stealing from the labor of others. Again, look up “no ethical consumption under capitalism.”
Your previous response was the definition of a strawman. You also like to put words in my mouth. Look up “no ethical consumption under capitalism.” Yes, we all contribute to suffering. My issue is with those who wildly enrich themselves by promoting massive suffering, and are okay with that.
December 7, 2024 at 8:19 PM
Your previous response was the definition of a strawman. You also like to put words in my mouth. Look up “no ethical consumption under capitalism.” Yes, we all contribute to suffering. My issue is with those who wildly enrich themselves by promoting massive suffering, and are okay with that.
Saturn’s got a jaunty tilt to its rings compared to its rotational cloud layers. 🪐
December 7, 2024 at 2:54 AM
Saturn’s got a jaunty tilt to its rings compared to its rotational cloud layers. 🪐
lol, nice straw man you’ve built for yourself to knock down. I don’t take money to promote lithium-powered devices. I do, however, live in an imperfect world where capitalism causes harm. But the world doesn’t have to be perfect in order for my argument to be completely valid.
December 7, 2024 at 2:47 AM
lol, nice straw man you’ve built for yourself to knock down. I don’t take money to promote lithium-powered devices. I do, however, live in an imperfect world where capitalism causes harm. But the world doesn’t have to be perfect in order for my argument to be completely valid.
Wow, dude is actually arguing that it’s okay to promote the products of a company that uses child labor if you pay a few tuition checks for people the child laborers will never meet on your way to the bank.
December 6, 2024 at 10:28 PM
Wow, dude is actually arguing that it’s okay to promote the products of a company that uses child labor if you pay a few tuition checks for people the child laborers will never meet on your way to the bank.
You’re missing the point. I’m not arguing that they haven’t done some good. I’m telling you that if a person is a billionaire, then by that fact alone they have done massive harm to countless people, and continuing to hoard most of that money while using some of it to “do some good” is not enough.
December 6, 2024 at 5:15 PM
You’re missing the point. I’m not arguing that they haven’t done some good. I’m telling you that if a person is a billionaire, then by that fact alone they have done massive harm to countless people, and continuing to hoard most of that money while using some of it to “do some good” is not enough.
Again, the good doesn’t outweigh the bad. I’m a HUGE fan of most of Spielberg’s directed works, too. But I don’t let that blind me.
Spielberg doesn’t need $5 billion. He could distribute the profits of a film he produces among ALL who worked on it. He actively chooses not to.
Spielberg doesn’t need $5 billion. He could distribute the profits of a film he produces among ALL who worked on it. He actively chooses not to.
December 6, 2024 at 5:11 PM
Again, the good doesn’t outweigh the bad. I’m a HUGE fan of most of Spielberg’s directed works, too. But I don’t let that blind me.
Spielberg doesn’t need $5 billion. He could distribute the profits of a film he produces among ALL who worked on it. He actively chooses not to.
Spielberg doesn’t need $5 billion. He could distribute the profits of a film he produces among ALL who worked on it. He actively chooses not to.
If a person with the kind of power that a billion dollars provides participates in a jacked system, and does nothing to change that system, then they aren’t a good person.
December 6, 2024 at 5:04 PM
If a person with the kind of power that a billion dollars provides participates in a jacked system, and does nothing to change that system, then they aren’t a good person.
Out of the 3 you mentioned, Melinda Gates has probably done the most good with her money. She has also put stipulations on the use of her charitable giving that wouldn’t be there if the money had simply been taxed & used in a gov’t program. In other words, she uses it as leverage to get her way.
December 6, 2024 at 5:02 PM
Out of the 3 you mentioned, Melinda Gates has probably done the most good with her money. She has also put stipulations on the use of her charitable giving that wouldn’t be there if the money had simply been taxed & used in a gov’t program. In other words, she uses it as leverage to get her way.
Look at how much Lebron makes per game. Now look at how much a worker at one of the arena’s food vendors makes. Or a janitor. Or a security guard. If a single person who works at the arena is living paycheck to paycheck, is Lebron a good person?
December 6, 2024 at 4:58 PM
Look at how much Lebron makes per game. Now look at how much a worker at one of the arena’s food vendors makes. Or a janitor. Or a security guard. If a single person who works at the arena is living paycheck to paycheck, is Lebron a good person?