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"Ceramic" (marketing term for sol-gel) nonstick is even shorter-lived than Teflon, all of those products are basically scams except for Made In which admits it only can last a few years
January 6, 2025 at 10:56 PM
Everyone's risk tolerance is different I guess, but there's no good evidence that eating food off PFAS is safe long term. It's illegal to sell the stuff as cookware in Minnesota starting in January. Seems naive to trust the petrochemical industry on it when they just got caught poisoning generations
December 8, 2024 at 4:12 PM
It's for people who can't cook / use the highest burner setting for everything. In reality that will destroy any nonstick coating very quickly, but it's all good from their perspective, planned obsolescence is why nonstick cookware is such a great business model
December 8, 2024 at 4:17 AM
Silicone doesn't have the plastic flame retardants but you do need to be careful to buy the ones listed as platinum-cured or, if they don't specify, certified by the German LFGB. The cheaper peroxide-cured stuff leaches siloxanes, which are terrible. FDA doesn't test for it so their cert is no good.
December 8, 2024 at 4:15 AM
It's not necessarily that the newer generation PTFE is less bad for you, there just isn't enough research for anyone to know yet. The developer, Chemours, is a spinoff of the very same company DuPont who baldly lied to the public for generations that the old version was inert while knowing it isn't.
December 8, 2024 at 4:11 AM
Almost nobody who doesn't work in media cares about stolen content in my experience
December 2, 2024 at 8:08 PM
They generally make a good first impression, they use a thicker aluminum core than cheap nonstick pans. The issue is their marketing claims they're a "lifetime" product and that's just a lie — the nonstick coating can only last a few years at best, and the warranty doesn't cover nonstick failure
December 1, 2024 at 7:10 AM
Ed, I love your podcast and tech coverage, few journalists seem to care about consumer protection like you. I know this isn't in your beat, but could you take a look at what I consider the biggest racket going in kitchenware, and maybe forward to someone who'd be interested? bsky.app/profile/copp...
This is the biggest lie in cookware in 2024.

Hexclad uses a sol-gel ("ceramic") nonstick coating (very quietly switched from PTFE recently). It can only possibly last a few years at best. You could only "use it for life" for decor or something other than cooking.
December 1, 2024 at 5:58 AM
I wonder if their marketing around durability, which is beyond misleading and imo completely a lie, would be considered a fraud case. bsky.app/profile/copp...
This is the biggest lie in cookware in 2024.

Hexclad uses a sol-gel ("ceramic") nonstick coating (very quietly switched from PTFE recently). It can only possibly last a few years at best. You could only "use it for life" for decor or something other than cooking.
December 1, 2024 at 4:19 AM
How does that work, do you have screenshots?
December 1, 2024 at 2:28 AM
Don't fall for it bsky.app/profile/copp...
This is the biggest lie in cookware in 2024.

Hexclad uses a sol-gel ("ceramic") nonstick coating (very quietly switched from PTFE recently). It can only possibly last a few years at best. You could only "use it for life" for decor or something other than cooking.
December 1, 2024 at 2:27 AM
It's not what their advertising would have you believe, you would be much better off with a tri-ply stainless one or any other uncoated metal pan. bsky.app/profile/copp...
This is the biggest lie in cookware in 2024.

Hexclad uses a sol-gel ("ceramic") nonstick coating (very quietly switched from PTFE recently). It can only possibly last a few years at best. You could only "use it for life" for decor or something other than cooking.
December 1, 2024 at 2:25 AM
Why does Hexclad seem to be well-reviewed by internet cooks and food media? They have massive affiliate marketing and influencer seeding programs. It's advertorial.

Hexclad can afford to blanket the Internet with it because their margins are huge: Generic ones direct from China retail for $10-20
November 30, 2024 at 8:56 PM
Now about the "lifetime" warranty which leads people to believe these pricey nonstick pans are a long-term investment. It only applies to factory defects, not wear to the nonstick coating (left).

Right, how an honest vendor of "ceramic" nonstick, Made In, describes expected lifespan: a few years.
November 30, 2024 at 8:39 PM
Hexclad very quietly switched from PTFE to a sol-gel ("ceramic") coating in the last couple months, you can check the FAQ on their website to confirm. So it can only last a couple years. Also note the warranty doesn't cover wear to the nonstick coating, only factory defects. No nonstick is long-term
November 30, 2024 at 8:31 PM
Also note the links are all affiliate links, the blog gets a commission for any sales. It's advertorial
November 30, 2024 at 8:29 PM
Another old French one that's used regularly and hasn't been polished in well over a year. There's no need for copper kitchen tools to look bright pink all the time.

(credit @businessinsider.com with the misinformation)
November 30, 2024 at 7:34 PM
Copper only looks crazy the first couple cooks after polishing, then it evens out to a nice deep patina. So you don't need to worry about it looking dirty if you hang it on display.

Here's an example of a retinned vintage pan that hasn't been polished in over a year. Perfectly clean, just tarnished
November 30, 2024 at 7:29 PM
Oh yeah those are perfect. Tin is so good as a baking surface
November 29, 2024 at 10:49 PM