Yea sorry, i dont wanna sound like a mindless hater. I dont really remember that being discussed tho? We know shes kinda insecure about being seen as a mindless killer but except that idk

I do get whatya mean but i dont recall any of millies long term goals nor major flaws. Same goes for alot of characters. helluva isnt a episode focused comedy anymore, it would be nice to have something. And like i said, i like octavia, her n stella are literally my favs.

-millie has little personality outside of her relationship with moxxie, and even her other relationships circle back to him
-dont get me started on stella
-verosika is a plot device
-loona is there
-i like octavia shes just all over the place rn

For me its genuinely mainly the writing and wordbuilding. It obvious viv has alot of ideas but she trys to cramp them all into two shows and it just comes out underbacked idk

I dont think hellaverse is explicitly adult media? Its 16/14+ in my country, and alot of the humour is kinda immature so obviously alot of teens will pick up on it. I havent seen viv speak out about it so i think she minds if teens watch it

I think its more cuz most of the women in the show are just rather poorly written which is why they dislike it (which partially includes myself).

I would consider myself a hellaverse "anti" (i hate that term) but thats something i noticed aswell. I dont like either of the hellaverse shows for a variety of reason, but i very much get why other people would enjoy it. But alot of "haters" just bad faith nitpick which is really annoying

Lute!

Striker!

Stella!

Angel dust!

Stolas!

Verosika!

Blitzo!

Niffty!