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Being Black, I have absolutely no interest in how they do this on the continent. All I know is that this will be used by every racist to question my Britishness. And because it's mandatory, that will lead to disproportionate and discriminatory criminalisation.
Being Black, I have absolutely no interest in how they do this on the continent. All I know is that this will be used by every racist to question my Britishness. And because it's mandatory, that will lead to disproportionate and discriminatory criminalisation.
Being Black in the EU – Experiences of people of African descent
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September 25, 2025 at 5:45 PM
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Being Black, I have absolutely no interest in how they do this on the continent. All I know is that this will be used by every racist to question my Britishness. And because it's mandatory, that will lead to disproportionate and discriminatory criminalisation.
Being Black, I have absolutely no interest in how they do this on the continent. All I know is that this will be used by every racist to question my Britishness. And because it's mandatory, that will lead to disproportionate and discriminatory criminalisation.
Facebook doesn't have the power to incarcerate me if I don't sign up to their website.
September 25, 2025 at 4:28 PM
Facebook doesn't have the power to incarcerate me if I don't sign up to their website.
This is an insane take. Unfollow.
September 7, 2025 at 10:11 PM
This is an insane take. Unfollow.
Also a majority proposition that is "contraversial" : www.thejusticegap.com/poll-reveals...
Poll reveals majority of Britons want to reinstate the death penalty – The Justice Gap
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August 13, 2025 at 5:17 PM
Also a majority proposition that is "contraversial" : www.thejusticegap.com/poll-reveals...
What is the punishment for not having one of these IDs?
June 6, 2025 at 5:23 PM
What is the punishment for not having one of these IDs?
I would tend to agree, but after my interactions on here on this topic today (not you - thank you), I'm doubtful that it will be implemented in a way that's fair to people who don't look or sound like white Britons.
June 6, 2025 at 2:18 PM
I would tend to agree, but after my interactions on here on this topic today (not you - thank you), I'm doubtful that it will be implemented in a way that's fair to people who don't look or sound like white Britons.
I repeat the fact that I don't care about those states. As a Black person in the UK, I'm used to a higher level of integration and fairness than any Black person in any of those states.
fra.europa.eu/en/publicati... Nothing that they do that affects people of African descent is a model to follow.
fra.europa.eu/en/publicati... Nothing that they do that affects people of African descent is a model to follow.
Being Black in the EU – Experiences of people of African descent
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June 6, 2025 at 2:16 PM
I repeat the fact that I don't care about those states. As a Black person in the UK, I'm used to a higher level of integration and fairness than any Black person in any of those states.
fra.europa.eu/en/publicati... Nothing that they do that affects people of African descent is a model to follow.
fra.europa.eu/en/publicati... Nothing that they do that affects people of African descent is a model to follow.
I am a child of Windrush. Windrush was about the Home Office and its bad records. They had no issue with dealing with other organs of the state until the Home Office intervened. ID cards affect the children of Windrush who now might be criminalised because they didn't produce a card to some racist.
June 6, 2025 at 2:01 PM
I am a child of Windrush. Windrush was about the Home Office and its bad records. They had no issue with dealing with other organs of the state until the Home Office intervened. ID cards affect the children of Windrush who now might be criminalised because they didn't produce a card to some racist.
Because the interaction will happen now that wouldn't have before because there would have been no grounds for it. I do not delve too deeply into the minds of racists as to why they want to bother me. And what is the penalty if I don't have my card in this unnecessary interaction?
June 6, 2025 at 1:47 PM
Because the interaction will happen now that wouldn't have before because there would have been no grounds for it. I do not delve too deeply into the minds of racists as to why they want to bother me. And what is the penalty if I don't have my card in this unnecessary interaction?
The argument that no one here is engaging with here is that the point of ID cards is to answer the question "We do not think you are of this state and are entitled to its benefits - prove that you are". That leads, necessarily, to a loss of trust. The impacts of the question affect only some...
June 6, 2025 at 1:41 PM
The argument that no one here is engaging with here is that the point of ID cards is to answer the question "We do not think you are of this state and are entitled to its benefits - prove that you are". That leads, necessarily, to a loss of trust. The impacts of the question affect only some...
Not at all. We should just make it difficult for the state to abuse its power. ID cards make it effortlessly easy.
June 6, 2025 at 1:35 PM
Not at all. We should just make it difficult for the state to abuse its power. ID cards make it effortlessly easy.
I don't care about states in which integration of immigration has been less successful than the UK. They are not a model to follow.
June 6, 2025 at 1:30 PM
I don't care about states in which integration of immigration has been less successful than the UK. They are not a model to follow.
I know. But it shows that the reason we got rid of them last time was because of unnecessary intrusion in people's lives. The same thing will happen again and non white people will disproportionately suffer. What will be the penalty for NOT carrying the ID card?
June 6, 2025 at 1:27 PM
I know. But it shows that the reason we got rid of them last time was because of unnecessary intrusion in people's lives. The same thing will happen again and non white people will disproportionately suffer. What will be the penalty for NOT carrying the ID card?
I'm afraid my lived experience here makes me disagree. To me, am ID card is just another opportunity to harass me. I don't care if I can then easily prove my ID, the unnecessary harassment has already happened, when it would have been more difficult before. And it erodes my sense of being British.
June 6, 2025 at 1:24 PM
I'm afraid my lived experience here makes me disagree. To me, am ID card is just another opportunity to harass me. I don't care if I can then easily prove my ID, the unnecessary harassment has already happened, when it would have been more difficult before. And it erodes my sense of being British.
This is not how it would work in principle.
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazin...
I wish people just knew their history.
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I wish people just knew their history.
BBC NEWS | UK | Magazine | When the British fought off ID cards
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June 6, 2025 at 1:21 PM
This is not how it would work in principle.
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazin...
I wish people just knew their history.
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazin...
I wish people just knew their history.
What I'm trying to say is that an ID is an opening for harassment that simply doesn't exist now. The reason that I'd cards were removed after the war exactly shows this - I don't have have the exact court case to hand, but will try to dig it up.
June 6, 2025 at 1:20 PM
What I'm trying to say is that an ID is an opening for harassment that simply doesn't exist now. The reason that I'd cards were removed after the war exactly shows this - I don't have have the exact court case to hand, but will try to dig it up.
Think about any interaction in which I don't have to produce ID right now, but someone wants to proactively make things more difficult for me or harass me. I guess lived experience is really important here...
June 6, 2025 at 1:17 PM
Think about any interaction in which I don't have to produce ID right now, but someone wants to proactively make things more difficult for me or harass me. I guess lived experience is really important here...
Think about any interaction that the police would like to have with me when I'm going about my own business.
June 6, 2025 at 1:16 PM
Think about any interaction that the police would like to have with me when I'm going about my own business.
Think like a racist. Someone who doesn't want me here. Right now, in their unofficial or official capacity they can't really challenge my ID for no good reason. That changes the minute there is an official ID card. I can't believe that you can't see the scope for abuse here.
June 6, 2025 at 1:15 PM
Think like a racist. Someone who doesn't want me here. Right now, in their unofficial or official capacity they can't really challenge my ID for no good reason. That changes the minute there is an official ID card. I can't believe that you can't see the scope for abuse here.
Because there are many interactions right now which don't take place because there's no reason for them to. An ID card increases the opportunity for anyone hostile to make my day difficult for no good reason because they now can, in an interaction that would not have occurred before.
June 6, 2025 at 1:12 PM
Because there are many interactions right now which don't take place because there's no reason for them to. An ID card increases the opportunity for anyone hostile to make my day difficult for no good reason because they now can, in an interaction that would not have occurred before.
The issue is that an ID card just increases opportunities for harassment by those that don't want people like me here. People who don't have that opportunity now. This includes the police, and countless others. And any old racist who feels empowered.
June 6, 2025 at 1:09 PM
The issue is that an ID card just increases opportunities for harassment by those that don't want people like me here. People who don't have that opportunity now. This includes the police, and countless others. And any old racist who feels empowered.
I am talking about everyday interactions (which most Windrush victims had no issue with). Windrush was an issue about the central state. Not every single functionary of the state, or people who are empowered to check ID by the state.
June 6, 2025 at 1:07 PM
I am talking about everyday interactions (which most Windrush victims had no issue with). Windrush was an issue about the central state. Not every single functionary of the state, or people who are empowered to check ID by the state.
I have responded elsewhere. I don't think you understand how this means that British citizens who aren't white will now have their citizenship open to challenge by all and sundry all the time, in a way out isn't now. This isn't about Windrush. It's about thier kids and grandkids etc.
June 6, 2025 at 1:04 PM
I have responded elsewhere. I don't think you understand how this means that British citizens who aren't white will now have their citizenship open to challenge by all and sundry all the time, in a way out isn't now. This isn't about Windrush. It's about thier kids and grandkids etc.
You aren't thinking about people who don't look British and the range of people who will be allowed to challenge those people's ID. An important issue in any society is trust. At the minute, non white people get the benefit of the doubt, because their Britishness can't easily be challenged...
June 6, 2025 at 1:02 PM
You aren't thinking about people who don't look British and the range of people who will be allowed to challenge those people's ID. An important issue in any society is trust. At the minute, non white people get the benefit of the doubt, because their Britishness can't easily be challenged...