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Timaeus
Parminedes Philebus
Sophist Meno Theatetus
Euthypro Apology Crito Phaedo
Rep1&2 Rep3&4 Rep5&6 Rep7&8 Rep9&10
https://www.gutenberg.org/files/55201/55201-h/55201-h.htm
Parminedes Philebus
Sophist Meno Theatetus
Euthypro Apology Crito Phaedo
Rep1&2 Rep3&4 Rep5&6 Rep7&8 Rep9&10
https://www.gutenberg.org/files/55201/55201-h/55201-h.htm
🌹As a tyrant begins to grow unpopular.
Some of those who joined in setting him up,
And who are in power,
Speak their minds to him and to one another
And the more courageous of them call him to task.
Republic Book 8 567C 🌹
Some of those who joined in setting him up,
And who are in power,
Speak their minds to him and to one another
And the more courageous of them call him to task.
Republic Book 8 567C 🌹
May 23, 2025 at 2:12 AM
🌹As a tyrant begins to grow unpopular.
Some of those who joined in setting him up,
And who are in power,
Speak their minds to him and to one another
And the more courageous of them call him to task.
Republic Book 8 567C 🌹
Some of those who joined in setting him up,
And who are in power,
Speak their minds to him and to one another
And the more courageous of them call him to task.
Republic Book 8 567C 🌹
🌿 Then he must be supposed
To have some art.
By heaven, they are cousins!
It never occurred to us.
The angler and the Sophist.
They both appear to me to be hunters.
How the Sophist?
Of the other we have spoken. 🌿
To have some art.
By heaven, they are cousins!
It never occurred to us.
The angler and the Sophist.
They both appear to me to be hunters.
How the Sophist?
Of the other we have spoken. 🌿
May 14, 2025 at 3:57 PM
🌿 Then he must be supposed
To have some art.
By heaven, they are cousins!
It never occurred to us.
The angler and the Sophist.
They both appear to me to be hunters.
How the Sophist?
Of the other we have spoken. 🌿
To have some art.
By heaven, they are cousins!
It never occurred to us.
The angler and the Sophist.
They both appear to me to be hunters.
How the Sophist?
Of the other we have spoken. 🌿
🌿 The first question about the angler was,
Whether he was a skilled artist or unskilled?
And shall we call our new friend unskilled,
Or a thorough master of his craft?
Certainly not unskilled, for his name,
As, indeed, you imply,
Must surely express his nature. 🌿
Whether he was a skilled artist or unskilled?
And shall we call our new friend unskilled,
Or a thorough master of his craft?
Certainly not unskilled, for his name,
As, indeed, you imply,
Must surely express his nature. 🌿
May 14, 2025 at 3:53 PM
🌿 The first question about the angler was,
Whether he was a skilled artist or unskilled?
And shall we call our new friend unskilled,
Or a thorough master of his craft?
Certainly not unskilled, for his name,
As, indeed, you imply,
Must surely express his nature. 🌿
Whether he was a skilled artist or unskilled?
And shall we call our new friend unskilled,
Or a thorough master of his craft?
Certainly not unskilled, for his name,
As, indeed, you imply,
Must surely express his nature. 🌿
🌿 The result has been
Quite satisfactorily brought out.
And now, following this pattern,
Let us endeavour to find out
What a Sophist is. 🌿
Quite satisfactorily brought out.
And now, following this pattern,
Let us endeavour to find out
What a Sophist is. 🌿
May 14, 2025 at 3:50 PM
🌿 The result has been
Quite satisfactorily brought out.
And now, following this pattern,
Let us endeavour to find out
What a Sophist is. 🌿
Quite satisfactorily brought out.
And now, following this pattern,
Let us endeavour to find out
What a Sophist is. 🌿
🌿 A part of striking was fishing with a barb,
And one half of this again,
Being the kind which strikes with a hook
And draws the fish from below upwards,
Is the art which we have been seeking,
And which from the nature of the operation
Is denoted angling or drawing up. 🌿
And one half of this again,
Being the kind which strikes with a hook
And draws the fish from below upwards,
Is the art which we have been seeking,
And which from the nature of the operation
Is denoted angling or drawing up. 🌿
May 14, 2025 at 3:49 PM
🌿 A part of striking was fishing with a barb,
And one half of this again,
Being the kind which strikes with a hook
And draws the fish from below upwards,
Is the art which we have been seeking,
And which from the nature of the operation
Is denoted angling or drawing up. 🌿
And one half of this again,
Being the kind which strikes with a hook
And draws the fish from below upwards,
Is the art which we have been seeking,
And which from the nature of the operation
Is denoted angling or drawing up. 🌿
🌿 One half of all art was acquisitive—
Half of the acquisitive art
Was conquest or taking by force,
Half of this was hunting,
And half of hunting was hunting animals,
Half of this was hunting water animals-
Of this again, the under half was fishing,
Half of fishing was striking; 🌿
Half of the acquisitive art
Was conquest or taking by force,
Half of this was hunting,
And half of hunting was hunting animals,
Half of this was hunting water animals-
Of this again, the under half was fishing,
Half of fishing was striking; 🌿
May 14, 2025 at 3:49 PM
🌿 One half of all art was acquisitive—
Half of the acquisitive art
Was conquest or taking by force,
Half of this was hunting,
And half of hunting was hunting animals,
Half of this was hunting water animals-
Of this again, the under half was fishing,
Half of fishing was striking; 🌿
Half of the acquisitive art
Was conquest or taking by force,
Half of this was hunting,
And half of hunting was hunting animals,
Half of this was hunting water animals-
Of this again, the under half was fishing,
Half of fishing was striking; 🌿
🌿 What is the right name
Of that mode of fishing?
I suspect that we have now discovered
The object of our search.
Then now we have come
To an understanding
Not only about the name of the angler's art,
But about the definition of the thing itself. 🌿
Of that mode of fishing?
I suspect that we have now discovered
The object of our search.
Then now we have come
To an understanding
Not only about the name of the angler's art,
But about the definition of the thing itself. 🌿
May 14, 2025 at 3:48 PM
🌿 What is the right name
Of that mode of fishing?
I suspect that we have now discovered
The object of our search.
Then now we have come
To an understanding
Not only about the name of the angler's art,
But about the definition of the thing itself. 🌿
Of that mode of fishing?
I suspect that we have now discovered
The object of our search.
Then now we have come
To an understanding
Not only about the name of the angler's art,
But about the definition of the thing itself. 🌿
🌿 Then now there is only one kind remaining.
When a hook is used,
And the fish is not struck
In any chance part of his body,
As he is with the spear,
But only about the head and mouth,
And is then drawn out from below
Upwards with reeds and rods: 🌿
When a hook is used,
And the fish is not struck
In any chance part of his body,
As he is with the spear,
But only about the head and mouth,
And is then drawn out from below
Upwards with reeds and rods: 🌿
May 14, 2025 at 3:46 PM
🌿 Then now there is only one kind remaining.
When a hook is used,
And the fish is not struck
In any chance part of his body,
As he is with the spear,
But only about the head and mouth,
And is then drawn out from below
Upwards with reeds and rods: 🌿
When a hook is used,
And the fish is not struck
In any chance part of his body,
As he is with the spear,
But only about the head and mouth,
And is then drawn out from below
Upwards with reeds and rods: 🌿
🌿 And the fishing by day is called
By the general name of barbing,
Because the spears, too, are barbed at the point.
Of this barb-fishing,
That which strikes the fish who is below
From above is called spearing,
Because this is the way
In which the three-pronged spears are mostly used. 🌿
By the general name of barbing,
Because the spears, too, are barbed at the point.
Of this barb-fishing,
That which strikes the fish who is below
From above is called spearing,
Because this is the way
In which the three-pronged spears are mostly used. 🌿
May 14, 2025 at 3:41 PM
🌿 And the fishing by day is called
By the general name of barbing,
Because the spears, too, are barbed at the point.
Of this barb-fishing,
That which strikes the fish who is below
From above is called spearing,
Because this is the way
In which the three-pronged spears are mostly used. 🌿
By the general name of barbing,
Because the spears, too, are barbed at the point.
Of this barb-fishing,
That which strikes the fish who is below
From above is called spearing,
Because this is the way
In which the three-pronged spears are mostly used. 🌿
🌿 There is one mode of striking,
Which is done at night,
And by the light of a fire,
And is by the hunters themselves called firing,
Or spearing by firelight. 🌿
Which is done at night,
And by the light of a fire,
And is by the hunters themselves called firing,
Or spearing by firelight. 🌿
May 14, 2025 at 3:29 PM
🌿 There is one mode of striking,
Which is done at night,
And by the light of a fire,
And is by the hunters themselves called firing,
Or spearing by firelight. 🌿
Which is done at night,
And by the light of a fire,
And is by the hunters themselves called firing,
Or spearing by firelight. 🌿
🌿 The other kind, which is practiced
By a blow with hooks and three-pronged spears,
When summed up under one name,
May be called striking,
Unless we can find some better name?🌿
By a blow with hooks and three-pronged spears,
When summed up under one name,
May be called striking,
Unless we can find some better name?🌿
May 14, 2025 at 3:28 PM
🌿 The other kind, which is practiced
By a blow with hooks and three-pronged spears,
When summed up under one name,
May be called striking,
Unless we can find some better name?🌿
By a blow with hooks and three-pronged spears,
When summed up under one name,
May be called striking,
Unless we can find some better name?🌿
🌿 And therefore this first kind of capture
May be called by us
Capture with enclosures,
Or something of that sort? 🌿
May be called by us
Capture with enclosures,
Or something of that sort? 🌿
May 14, 2025 at 3:28 PM
🌿 And therefore this first kind of capture
May be called by us
Capture with enclosures,
Or something of that sort? 🌿
May be called by us
Capture with enclosures,
Or something of that sort? 🌿
🌿As to the first kind—
All that surrounds
And encloses anything to prevent egress,
May be rightly called an enclosure.
For which reason
Twig baskets, casting-nets, nooses, creels,
And the like may all be termed 'enclosures'?🌿
All that surrounds
And encloses anything to prevent egress,
May be rightly called an enclosure.
For which reason
Twig baskets, casting-nets, nooses, creels,
And the like may all be termed 'enclosures'?🌿
May 14, 2025 at 3:27 PM
🌿As to the first kind—
All that surrounds
And encloses anything to prevent egress,
May be rightly called an enclosure.
For which reason
Twig baskets, casting-nets, nooses, creels,
And the like may all be termed 'enclosures'?🌿
All that surrounds
And encloses anything to prevent egress,
May be rightly called an enclosure.
For which reason
Twig baskets, casting-nets, nooses, creels,
And the like may all be termed 'enclosures'?🌿
🌿And this sort of hunting
May be further divided
Also into two principal kinds?
There is one kind
Which takes them in nets,
Another which takes them by a blow. 🌿
May be further divided
Also into two principal kinds?
There is one kind
Which takes them in nets,
Another which takes them by a blow. 🌿
May 14, 2025 at 3:27 PM
🌿And this sort of hunting
May be further divided
Also into two principal kinds?
There is one kind
Which takes them in nets,
Another which takes them by a blow. 🌿
May be further divided
Also into two principal kinds?
There is one kind
Which takes them in nets,
Another which takes them by a blow. 🌿
🌿 Fowling is the general term
Under which the hunting
Of all birds is included.
The hunting of animals
Who live in the water
Has the general name of fishing. 🌿
Under which the hunting
Of all birds is included.
The hunting of animals
Who live in the water
Has the general name of fishing. 🌿
May 14, 2025 at 3:25 PM
🌿 Fowling is the general term
Under which the hunting
Of all birds is included.
The hunting of animals
Who live in the water
Has the general name of fishing. 🌿
Under which the hunting
Of all birds is included.
The hunting of animals
Who live in the water
Has the general name of fishing. 🌿
🌿 Land-animal hunting,
Which has many kinds and names,
And water-animal hunting,
Or the hunting after animals who swim?
And of swimming animals,
One class lives on the wing
And the other in the water? 🌿
Which has many kinds and names,
And water-animal hunting,
Or the hunting after animals who swim?
And of swimming animals,
One class lives on the wing
And the other in the water? 🌿
May 14, 2025 at 3:25 PM
🌿 Land-animal hunting,
Which has many kinds and names,
And water-animal hunting,
Or the hunting after animals who swim?
And of swimming animals,
One class lives on the wing
And the other in the water? 🌿
Which has many kinds and names,
And water-animal hunting,
Or the hunting after animals who swim?
And of swimming animals,
One class lives on the wing
And the other in the water? 🌿
🌿 But the hunting after lifeless things
Having no special name,
Except some sorts of diving,
And other small matters, may be omitted;
The hunting after living things
May be called animal hunting.
And animal hunting may be truly said
To have two divisions. 🌿
Having no special name,
Except some sorts of diving,
And other small matters, may be omitted;
The hunting after living things
May be called animal hunting.
And animal hunting may be truly said
To have two divisions. 🌿
May 14, 2025 at 3:23 PM
🌿 But the hunting after lifeless things
Having no special name,
Except some sorts of diving,
And other small matters, may be omitted;
The hunting after living things
May be called animal hunting.
And animal hunting may be truly said
To have two divisions. 🌿
Having no special name,
Except some sorts of diving,
And other small matters, may be omitted;
The hunting after living things
May be called animal hunting.
And animal hunting may be truly said
To have two divisions. 🌿
🌿 And may not conquest be again subdivided?
Open force may be called fighting,
And secret force
May have the general name of hunting?
And there is no reason why the art of hunting
Should not be further divided.
How would we make the division?
Into the hunting of living and of lifeless prey. 🌿
Open force may be called fighting,
And secret force
May have the general name of hunting?
And there is no reason why the art of hunting
Should not be further divided.
How would we make the division?
Into the hunting of living and of lifeless prey. 🌿
May 14, 2025 at 3:01 PM
🌿 And may not conquest be again subdivided?
Open force may be called fighting,
And secret force
May have the general name of hunting?
And there is no reason why the art of hunting
Should not be further divided.
How would we make the division?
Into the hunting of living and of lifeless prey. 🌿
Open force may be called fighting,
And secret force
May have the general name of hunting?
And there is no reason why the art of hunting
Should not be further divided.
How would we make the division?
Into the hunting of living and of lifeless prey. 🌿
🌿 And the acquisitive may be subdivided into two parts:
There is exchange, which is voluntary
And is effected by gifts, hire, purchase;
And the other part of acquisitive,
Which takes by force of word or deed,
May be termed conquest. 🌿
There is exchange, which is voluntary
And is effected by gifts, hire, purchase;
And the other part of acquisitive,
Which takes by force of word or deed,
May be termed conquest. 🌿
May 14, 2025 at 2:58 PM
🌿 And the acquisitive may be subdivided into two parts:
There is exchange, which is voluntary
And is effected by gifts, hire, purchase;
And the other part of acquisitive,
Which takes by force of word or deed,
May be termed conquest. 🌿
There is exchange, which is voluntary
And is effected by gifts, hire, purchase;
And the other part of acquisitive,
Which takes by force of word or deed,
May be termed conquest. 🌿
🌿Seeing, then, that all arts
Are either acquisitive or creative,
In which class shall we place
The art of the angler?
Clearly in the acquisitive class. 🌿
Are either acquisitive or creative,
In which class shall we place
The art of the angler?
Clearly in the acquisitive class. 🌿
May 8, 2025 at 11:06 PM
🌿Seeing, then, that all arts
Are either acquisitive or creative,
In which class shall we place
The art of the angler?
Clearly in the acquisitive class. 🌿
Are either acquisitive or creative,
In which class shall we place
The art of the angler?
Clearly in the acquisitive class. 🌿
🌿 And since none of these produces anything,
But is only engaged in conquering by word or deed,
Or in preventing others from conquering,
Things which exist and have been already produced—
In each and all of these branches
There appears to be an art
Which may be called acquisitive. 🌿
But is only engaged in conquering by word or deed,
Or in preventing others from conquering,
Things which exist and have been already produced—
In each and all of these branches
There appears to be an art
Which may be called acquisitive. 🌿
May 8, 2025 at 4:15 AM
🌿 And since none of these produces anything,
But is only engaged in conquering by word or deed,
Or in preventing others from conquering,
Things which exist and have been already produced—
In each and all of these branches
There appears to be an art
Which may be called acquisitive. 🌿
But is only engaged in conquering by word or deed,
Or in preventing others from conquering,
Things which exist and have been already produced—
In each and all of these branches
There appears to be an art
Which may be called acquisitive. 🌿
🌿 Next follows the whole class
Of learning and cognition;
Then comes
Trade, fighting, hunting. 🌿
Of learning and cognition;
Then comes
Trade, fighting, hunting. 🌿
May 8, 2025 at 4:14 AM
🌿 Next follows the whole class
Of learning and cognition;
Then comes
Trade, fighting, hunting. 🌿
Of learning and cognition;
Then comes
Trade, fighting, hunting. 🌿
🌿 And all the arts which were just now mentioned
Are characterized by this power of producing?
Then let us sum them up under the name
Of productive or creative art. 🌿
Are characterized by this power of producing?
Then let us sum them up under the name
Of productive or creative art. 🌿
May 8, 2025 at 4:10 AM
🌿 And all the arts which were just now mentioned
Are characterized by this power of producing?
Then let us sum them up under the name
Of productive or creative art. 🌿
Are characterized by this power of producing?
Then let us sum them up under the name
Of productive or creative art. 🌿
🌿 He who brings into existence something
That did not exist before
Is said to be a producer,
And that which is brought into existence
Is said to be produced. 🌿
That did not exist before
Is said to be a producer,
And that which is brought into existence
Is said to be produced. 🌿
April 30, 2025 at 3:16 AM
🌿 He who brings into existence something
That did not exist before
Is said to be a producer,
And that which is brought into existence
Is said to be produced. 🌿
That did not exist before
Is said to be a producer,
And that which is brought into existence
Is said to be produced. 🌿
🌿 There is agriculture,
And the tending of mortal creatures,
And the art of constructing or moulding vessels,
And there is the art of imitation—
All these may be appropriately called
By a single name.🌿
And the tending of mortal creatures,
And the art of constructing or moulding vessels,
And there is the art of imitation—
All these may be appropriately called
By a single name.🌿
April 30, 2025 at 2:08 AM
🌿 There is agriculture,
And the tending of mortal creatures,
And the art of constructing or moulding vessels,
And there is the art of imitation—
All these may be appropriately called
By a single name.🌿
And the tending of mortal creatures,
And the art of constructing or moulding vessels,
And there is the art of imitation—
All these may be appropriately called
By a single name.🌿