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November 18, 2025 at 1:47 PM
By Ninjas or Gangsters?

Or, ...hear me out.....

Ninja Gangsters!!!
November 12, 2025 at 2:07 AM
And I will read Furr. Will let you know what I think one day.
November 11, 2025 at 5:49 PM
Ok so, lets say you're right on the numbers

I still don't think that any number of millions of Americans deaths is good. Period

THAT'S the main argument I was making

Quibble about who's numbers are more accurate if you want.

I say they're all too high and I want us to do better than that

Clear?
November 11, 2025 at 5:49 PM
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November 11, 2025 at 5:36 PM
It is time for a change, no doubt. But not a burn it all down and take the random result kind either.

It's time for a smart change. Its time for an upgrade to our way of life. For the sake of our kids, for the sake of the planet.

We don't have time for more shit.

We need to do better. Now.
November 11, 2025 at 4:12 PM
Maybe theoretically, but I am not willing to gamble my countrymen's lives to find out.

If there is to be a new system. Let's make something better, lets look at and learn from the horrific examples of the past. And the successes, Please let us progress and not repeat the old mistakes over and over
November 11, 2025 at 4:09 PM
Besides who cares if it was 10 million or 12, or 6?

The point is that it didn't work out so well for the people who made the revolution in the first place.

I don't want to watch the same thing happen again.

I insist we do better this time.
November 11, 2025 at 4:05 PM
Ok, so now all history is a sham and only a few people know "the Truth".

Sadly O remember going over these same facts in high school over 50 years ago. So these are not any surprise revelations from google.
November 11, 2025 at 4:05 PM
Can we not discuss ways to keep Marxism from being hijacked again? Or any Evolutions of Marxism that have better safeguards?

I'm tired of the solid history of most every "Peoples Revolution" being turned into a living nightmare for the people themselves.
November 11, 2025 at 4:01 PM
I agree end stage capitalism is here and now.
I agree a more cooperative form of government is needed.
I agree any significant change or evolution of our current system will likely involve violence.

I do not agree that Stalinism or Maoism is better at all.

Marx though, He's cool by me.
November 11, 2025 at 3:57 PM
Ok, now while you want to quibble over exactly how many millions were killed...

I say I don't want ANY number of millions of my fellow Americans and neighbors to die for ANY reason.

Understood?
November 11, 2025 at 3:49 PM
Want to do Mao next?

I don't think you are actually aware of the history you espouse.

You can go all conspiracy theory on me if you want and tell me how these deaths were all a good thing, but I don't think anyone believes your "special" version of history.
November 11, 2025 at 3:47 PM
4.

Most modern historical consensus places the number of direct and indirect deaths in the range of 6 to 20 million people.
November 11, 2025 at 3:44 PM
3.

Gulag system: Millions were subjected to forced labor, and death rates in the camps from maltreatment, starvation, and disease were extremely high. Many did not return from these camps.
November 11, 2025 at 3:44 PM
2.

The Great Purge (Great Terror): During this period in the late 1930s, an estimated 750,000 to nearly a million people were executed after being accused of political opposition. Millions more were sent to the Gulag (a system of forced labor camps).
November 11, 2025 at 3:44 PM
Google: How many people did Stalin kill?

1.

Forced collectivization and famine: Millions of peasants died during the forced collectivization of farms, most notably during the Holodomor famine in Ukraine in the early 1930s, which claimed as many as 5 to 10 million lives.
November 11, 2025 at 3:44 PM
Sure, whatever. Quibble on the stats all you want. They're fresh from google so yell at them if you don't like em.

The point I am making still stands.

Revolution without a plan for afterwards is just stupid. Why are you so against trying to come up with something better than Stalinism or Maoism?
November 11, 2025 at 3:27 PM
I didn't come here to do that, this is where your conversation led so far. The stats are simply google search.

I don't know what you are having trouble understanding.

Don't burn the house down before you make plans for the new one. Simple enough?

Do you just want a revolution and no plan?
November 11, 2025 at 3:24 PM
Well Stalin killed over 10 million and Mao killed 15~45 mil (depending on who you ask).

I know things are bad here and now, and we're on our way to some serious turmoil and pain.

I just don't want to burn today down for an even worse tomorrow. I want us to be ready with a better plan.
November 11, 2025 at 3:12 PM
Stalin and Mao killed millions upon millions. Through intentional starvation, work camps and direct murder/disappearance.

I think we should try to do better than that.
November 11, 2025 at 12:12 PM
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November 11, 2025 at 2:52 AM
I'm not accepting the dichotomy of either/or .

I think it's important to plan a new method before destroying the one you've got.

I am not saying "don't push for change"

I am saying: lets figure out how to all push in the same direction so we can actually get somewhere better this time.

Fair?
November 11, 2025 at 2:10 AM
Where's the boat, Where's the boat?
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November 11, 2025 at 12:19 AM