No, why we are in this mess is because many people didn't vote. A black woman was a bridge to far for MANY ignorant blue-collar Dems, and Trump got the bros and many minorities by promising them everything, and they believed his BS. We need a candidate who will appeal to blue collar Dems and INDs.

OK, listen to me, whether you believe it or not I'm in the fight, I do what I can, I donate to Act Blue. I donate to the Lincoln Project, and I give to other candidates that are in tough toss up districts. If you seriously want to win back congress and the WH we need to nominate moderates. Thats it.

First, let's be civil. There are plenty of Republicans who aren't a fan of trump but are too afraid to do anything because they will lose their job. IMHO when trump is gone things will somewhat return to normal. The other option is we fight each other forever, that won't work.

I can let myself; the trouble is we need another 70+ million people to vote for a far left liberal and according to the experts that isn't going to happen. The country needs moderates who can work across the aisle to get things done.

You're preaching to the choir; I'm all for single payer health care but middle America hears death panels and socialism and won't vote for any of it, whether it's true or not.

Bernie, AOC, I could go on, but you must know what is a far left liberal is. America is a center right country, and most Americans are moderate. Most people don't want extreme politics. I consider myself center left; I use to be a liberal Republican now I'm an Independent.

I like Walz a lot but I don't think he will be the nominee.

I'm a moderate ex republican now independent, I voted for Reagan, both Bushes and McCain, I also voted for Obama, Harris, and Biden. I believe we need a moderate who can defeat these lunatics, but I don't think a far left liberal can win.

Pritzer may very well be the dark horse. I think he would make a great candidate

I would argue that polling this far out means nothing, and I would guess that it would either be Newsom or Shapiro, more likely Shapiro.

The problem is really left-wing Dems like AOC and Bernie can't win. The Dems need to win over independents and blue-collar moderate democrats.

What's the song say, you can't always get what you want, you get what you need. I like AOC and Buttigieg and Bernie but imho they can't win. The Dems need someone that blue collar dems and independents will vote for.

I like her to, but she won't get moderate Dems or Independents. Think more like Shapiro from PA would be a logical choice.

I used to follow you at the other place until it went to shit, nice to see Indy fans here.