bryan newbold
@bnewbold.social.coop.ap.brid.gy
dweb, cycling, free software, snow, wiki, hardware, big cities, symbolic systems. I love speculating about found objects.
Working at https://blueskyweb.xyz/ on […]
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Working at https://blueskyweb.xyz/ on […]
[bridged from https://social.coop/@bnewbold on the fediverse by https://fed.brid.gy/ ]
@thisismissem not directly related or required, but you might be interested in this little DNS resolver thing:
https://tangled.sh/@bnewbold.net/cobalt/blob/main/cmd/handlr/README.md
https://tangled.sh/@bnewbold.net/cobalt/blob/main/cmd/handlr/README.md
cmd/handlr/README.md at main · @bnewbold.net/cobalt
go scratch code for atproto
tangled.sh
September 12, 2025 at 3:18 AM
@thisismissem not directly related or required, but you might be interested in this little DNS resolver thing:
https://tangled.sh/@bnewbold.net/cobalt/blob/main/cmd/handlr/README.md
https://tangled.sh/@bnewbold.net/cobalt/blob/main/cmd/handlr/README.md
@thisismissem oh! we use this Caddy feature for self-hosted atproto PDS instances, to verify "handles".
I didn't know about this "ask" feature though, that is really nifty and would prevent some DoS issues
I didn't know about this "ask" feature though, that is really nifty and would prevent some DoS issues
September 12, 2025 at 1:54 AM
@thisismissem oh! we use this Caddy feature for self-hosted atproto PDS instances, to verify "handles".
I didn't know about this "ask" feature though, that is really nifty and would prevent some DoS issues
I didn't know about this "ask" feature though, that is really nifty and would prevent some DoS issues
@ricci @jdp23 one thing i'd point out is that (I assume) this counts the vast majority of Threads users as not "part of Fediverse". otherwise Threads would dominate fediverse in a big way (though maybe not as much as bsky dominates atmo PDS hosting!).
which I think is accurate!
which I think is accurate!
August 30, 2025 at 11:33 PM
@ricci @jdp23 FWIW, I think this is is a helpful contribution to the conversation because it is specific, and I think what is being measured does matter.
I don't think that it is the *only* thing that matters, but it is a measurement/metric I would like the atmosphere to improve on over the years.
I don't think that it is the *only* thing that matters, but it is a measurement/metric I would like the atmosphere to improve on over the years.
August 30, 2025 at 11:32 PM
@xgranade another answer, which I love, is that folks could also just create fediverse accounts and the bridge.
in the near future they might even be able to migrate their account through the bridge:
https://blog.anew.social/bounce-a-cross-protocol-migration-tool/
in the near future they might even be able to migrate their account through the bridge:
https://blog.anew.social/bounce-a-cross-protocol-migration-tool/
Bounce: A Cross-Protocol Migration Tool
0:00 /0:05 1× Introducing: Bounce Today at FediForum, we previewed Bounce: a new tool that uses Bridgy Fed to help migrate your social graph between Mastodon and Bluesky. You read that right: we built a service that moves your social graph not just within a protocol network, but
blog.anew.social
August 24, 2025 at 3:42 AM
@xgranade another answer, which I love, is that folks could also just create fediverse accounts and the bridge.
in the near future they might even be able to migrate their account through the bridge:
https://blog.anew.social/bounce-a-cross-protocol-migration-tool/
in the near future they might even be able to migrate their account through the bridge:
https://blog.anew.social/bounce-a-cross-protocol-migration-tool/
@xgranade the caveats there are the same with AP: how do you find these apps/hosts and get an invite? what incentivizes folks to run them? how independent are they really from upstream devs and other large players in the ecosystem? what are the economics of the moderation labor?
August 24, 2025 at 3:32 AM
@xgranade the caveats there are the same with AP: how do you find these apps/hosts and get an invite? what incentivizes folks to run them? how independent are they really from upstream devs and other large players in the ecosystem? what are the economics of the moderation labor?
@xgranade
Thanks for the clear clarification!
For an end user in a situation like that, ideally i'd send them to https://blacksky.community/, which is a client app, and has a "Create Account" button which will result in an account hosted by Blacksky, under their ToS (this would require an […]
Thanks for the clear clarification!
For an end user in a situation like that, ideally i'd send them to https://blacksky.community/, which is a client app, and has a "Create Account" button which will result in an account hosted by Blacksky, under their ToS (this would require an […]
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social.coop
August 24, 2025 at 3:28 AM
@xgranade
Thanks for the clear clarification!
For an end user in a situation like that, ideally i'd send them to https://blacksky.community/, which is a client app, and has a "Create Account" button which will result in an account hosted by Blacksky, under their ToS (this would require an […]
Thanks for the clear clarification!
For an end user in a situation like that, ideally i'd send them to https://blacksky.community/, which is a client app, and has a "Create Account" button which will result in an account hosted by Blacksky, under their ToS (this would require an […]
@xgranade that is a lot of components!
if you have the perspective of wanting it to be easy to run the whole stack as a "single instance", this is a big pain (compared to, eg, the mastodon software distribution).
from my perspective, it is *good* to have it broken up in to specialized […]
if you have the perspective of wanting it to be easy to run the whole stack as a "single instance", this is a big pain (compared to, eg, the mastodon software distribution).
from my perspective, it is *good* to have it broken up in to specialized […]
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social.coop
August 24, 2025 at 2:23 AM
@xgranade that is a lot of components!
if you have the perspective of wanting it to be easy to run the whole stack as a "single instance", this is a big pain (compared to, eg, the mastodon software distribution).
from my perspective, it is *good* to have it broken up in to specialized […]
if you have the perspective of wanting it to be easy to run the whole stack as a "single instance", this is a big pain (compared to, eg, the mastodon software distribution).
from my perspective, it is *good* to have it broken up in to specialized […]
@jannem @xgranade
if somebody in Mississippi set things up they could interoperate with the rest of the network.
"continue to use Bluesky": they would not be using the Bluesky Social branded app from the app store, but yeah they could do microblogging in the atmosphere with friends elsewhere […]
if somebody in Mississippi set things up they could interoperate with the rest of the network.
"continue to use Bluesky": they would not be using the Bluesky Social branded app from the app store, but yeah they could do microblogging in the atmosphere with friends elsewhere […]
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social.coop
August 24, 2025 at 2:15 AM
August 24, 2025 at 2:06 AM
@xgranade finally moderation. which of course is the hardest and perhaps most important part of the whole system!
The "Ozone" moderation service is open source and has self-hosting instructions:
https://github.com/bluesky-social/ozone/
There are dozens of instances focused on different aspects […]
The "Ozone" moderation service is open source and has self-hosting instructions:
https://github.com/bluesky-social/ozone/
There are dozens of instances focused on different aspects […]
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social.coop
August 24, 2025 at 2:03 AM
@xgranade finally moderation. which of course is the hardest and perhaps most important part of the whole system!
The "Ozone" moderation service is open source and has self-hosting instructions:
https://github.com/bluesky-social/ozone/
There are dozens of instances focused on different aspects […]
The "Ozone" moderation service is open source and has self-hosting instructions:
https://github.com/bluesky-social/ozone/
There are dozens of instances focused on different aspects […]
@xgranade
Client Apps: these are usually pretty simple front-end apps which talk to AppView backend. But apps are still super important in atproto! They are ultimately where product features happen, and set defaults for which infra is used, and what moderation providers are required. as well as […]
Client Apps: these are usually pretty simple front-end apps which talk to AppView backend. But apps are still super important in atproto! They are ultimately where product features happen, and set defaults for which infra is used, and what moderation providers are required. as well as […]
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social.coop
August 24, 2025 at 2:00 AM
@xgranade
Client Apps: these are usually pretty simple front-end apps which talk to AppView backend. But apps are still super important in atproto! They are ultimately where product features happen, and set defaults for which infra is used, and what moderation providers are required. as well as […]
Client Apps: these are usually pretty simple front-end apps which talk to AppView backend. But apps are still super important in atproto! They are ultimately where product features happen, and set defaults for which infra is used, and what moderation providers are required. as well as […]
@xgranade
Indexing (AppView): focusing on bsky microblogging (ignoring things like blog posts, events, forums, etc), there are a couple different approaches to independent indexing, to serve things like reply threads.
https://zeppelin.social/ is both a full-network bsky AppView, and a client […]
Indexing (AppView): focusing on bsky microblogging (ignoring things like blog posts, events, forums, etc), there are a couple different approaches to independent indexing, to serve things like reply threads.
https://zeppelin.social/ is both a full-network bsky AppView, and a client […]
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social.coop
August 24, 2025 at 1:58 AM
@xgranade
Indexing (AppView): focusing on bsky microblogging (ignoring things like blog posts, events, forums, etc), there are a couple different approaches to independent indexing, to serve things like reply threads.
https://zeppelin.social/ is both a full-network bsky AppView, and a client […]
Indexing (AppView): focusing on bsky microblogging (ignoring things like blog posts, events, forums, etc), there are a couple different approaches to independent indexing, to serve things like reply threads.
https://zeppelin.social/ is both a full-network bsky AppView, and a client […]
@xgranade
Relay: I have a blog post describing how to run an independent full-network relay here:
https://whtwnd.com/bnewbold.net/3kwzl7tye6u2y
A community member (phil) runs a handful of relays in different world regions, just for fun.
Blacksky community has their own relay implementation and […]
Relay: I have a blog post describing how to run an independent full-network relay here:
https://whtwnd.com/bnewbold.net/3kwzl7tye6u2y
A community member (phil) runs a handful of relays in different world regions, just for fun.
Blacksky community has their own relay implementation and […]
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social.coop
August 24, 2025 at 1:55 AM
@xgranade
Relay: I have a blog post describing how to run an independent full-network relay here:
https://whtwnd.com/bnewbold.net/3kwzl7tye6u2y
A community member (phil) runs a handful of relays in different world regions, just for fun.
Blacksky community has their own relay implementation and […]
Relay: I have a blog post describing how to run an independent full-network relay here:
https://whtwnd.com/bnewbold.net/3kwzl7tye6u2y
A community member (phil) runs a handful of relays in different world regions, just for fun.
Blacksky community has their own relay implementation and […]
@xgranade
Hosting (PDS): folks have been running independent PDS instances for more than a year now. It costs on the order of $5/month to run a full PDS with a small group of users. A recent community-scale effort has been Blacksky getting hundreds of folks to migrate.
Most PDS instances […]
Hosting (PDS): folks have been running independent PDS instances for more than a year now. It costs on the order of $5/month to run a full PDS with a small group of users. A recent community-scale effort has been Blacksky getting hundreds of folks to migrate.
Most PDS instances […]
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social.coop
August 24, 2025 at 1:53 AM
@xgranade
Hosting (PDS): folks have been running independent PDS instances for more than a year now. It costs on the order of $5/month to run a full PDS with a small group of users. A recent community-scale effort has been Blacksky getting hundreds of folks to migrate.
Most PDS instances […]
Hosting (PDS): folks have been running independent PDS instances for more than a year now. It costs on the order of $5/month to run a full PDS with a small group of users. A recent community-scale effort has been Blacksky getting hundreds of folks to migrate.
Most PDS instances […]
@xgranade
Identity: I recommend most folks just use did:plc (which gives strong ownership and doesn't require domain registration), but did:web is supported and totally doesn't touch Bluesky PBC. Here is a (long, detailed, technical) guide […]
Identity: I recommend most folks just use did:plc (which gives strong ownership and doesn't require domain registration), but did:web is supported and totally doesn't touch Bluesky PBC. Here is a (long, detailed, technical) guide […]
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social.coop
August 24, 2025 at 1:49 AM
@xgranade
Identity: I recommend most folks just use did:plc (which gives strong ownership and doesn't require domain registration), but did:web is supported and totally doesn't touch Bluesky PBC. Here is a (long, detailed, technical) guide […]
Identity: I recommend most folks just use did:plc (which gives strong ownership and doesn't require domain registration), but did:web is supported and totally doesn't touch Bluesky PBC. Here is a (long, detailed, technical) guide […]
@xgranade I'll give examples for each of this which aren't controlled by Bluesky PBC, and all work together. Nobody I know independently runs *all* these things in a *single* org.
And i'm not going to claim that Bluesky isn't the dominant service provider for all of these for most people in the […]
And i'm not going to claim that Bluesky isn't the dominant service provider for all of these for most people in the […]
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social.coop
August 24, 2025 at 1:45 AM
@xgranade I'll give examples for each of this which aren't controlled by Bluesky PBC, and all work together. Nobody I know independently runs *all* these things in a *single* org.
And i'm not going to claim that Bluesky isn't the dominant service provider for all of these for most people in the […]
And i'm not going to claim that Bluesky isn't the dominant service provider for all of these for most people in the […]
@xgranade ATProto is designed to be broken up in to components which can be operated by different folks. This is a lot like the web/internet, but not like Fediverse, in that Fedi folks often expect to have one server combine "the whole stack".
Some major ATproto components:
- identity (DIDs)
- […]
Some major ATproto components:
- identity (DIDs)
- […]
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social.coop
August 24, 2025 at 1:41 AM
@xgranade ATProto is designed to be broken up in to components which can be operated by different folks. This is a lot like the web/internet, but not like Fediverse, in that Fedi folks often expect to have one server combine "the whole stack".
Some major ATproto components:
- identity (DIDs)
- […]
Some major ATproto components:
- identity (DIDs)
- […]
@ben @thisismissem I'm not going to argue that Bluesky isn't VC-funded today, or in the big picture, but I think it was a big deal that it got on the order of $10 million dollars at the start as an R&D contract. that gave about a year for the original team to do pure engineering experimentation […]
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social.coop
May 11, 2025 at 4:04 AM
@ben @thisismissem I'm not going to argue that Bluesky isn't VC-funded today, or in the big picture, but I think it was a big deal that it got on the order of $10 million dollars at the start as an R&D contract. that gave about a year for the original team to do pure engineering experimentation […]
@wjmaggos that blog post is focused on a single piece of infrastructure: relays. in the past there was a fixation from some folks on the cost and control of that piece of infrastructure, and this is a response to that.
there are still other pieces of atproto/bluesky infrastructure which are not […]
there are still other pieces of atproto/bluesky infrastructure which are not […]
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social.coop
May 2, 2025 at 8:41 PM
@wjmaggos that blog post is focused on a single piece of infrastructure: relays. in the past there was a fixation from some folks on the cost and control of that piece of infrastructure, and this is a response to that.
there are still other pieces of atproto/bluesky infrastructure which are not […]
there are still other pieces of atproto/bluesky infrastructure which are not […]
@timbray just drove through that area yesterday, it is so great.
also thinking about how it is kind of the northern terminus of "highways/roads mostly along the Pacific coast" all the way from the mexican border (at least)
also thinking about how it is kind of the northern terminus of "highways/roads mostly along the Pacific coast" all the way from the mexican border (at least)
March 20, 2025 at 7:01 PM
@timbray just drove through that area yesterday, it is so great.
also thinking about how it is kind of the northern terminus of "highways/roads mostly along the Pacific coast" all the way from the mexican border (at least)
also thinking about how it is kind of the northern terminus of "highways/roads mostly along the Pacific coast" all the way from the mexican border (at least)
@jonny the tapes are individually cheap, but the read/write machines are expensive. that would be fine if the machines were reliable and/or compatible over long time periods, but they are not. they need repair, sometimes get more expensive second-hand, etc.
spinning disks, with integrated […]
spinning disks, with integrated […]
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social.coop
February 25, 2025 at 10:09 PM
@jonny the tapes are individually cheap, but the read/write machines are expensive. that would be fine if the machines were reliable and/or compatible over long time periods, but they are not. they need repair, sometimes get more expensive second-hand, etc.
spinning disks, with integrated […]
spinning disks, with integrated […]